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    Player Emitremmus's Avatar
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    Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

    I think this is a modest request. 30 is much too low to do anything in Abyssea. We know it specifically for key-whoring until you get into the upper levels in which case you are forced to skill-up and obtain spells that you missed out on with your exp binge.

    I'm not calling anyone out who does this, but you got to admit it is kinda lame to be able to do this.
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    Player Cream_Soda's Avatar
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    I did a lot of my runaround quests on a lv 30 job
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    Player RaenRyong's Avatar
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    So instead of Abyssea burning, we will be stuck in East Ronfaure [S] and Qufim? Or Astral Burning?

    People are using Abyssea to level because the old way SUCKED. Trying to change it is just imposing your nostalgia on others. If people loved levelling the old way so much, they would.
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    Player Tsukino_Kaji's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaenRyong View Post
    So instead of Abyssea burning, we will be stuck in East Ronfaure [S] and Qufim? Or Astral Burning?

    People are using Abyssea to level because the old way SUCKED. Trying to change it is just imposing your nostalgia on others. If people loved levelling the old way so much, they would.
    No, they did it because they were lazy and wanted instant gratification. Abyssea gave everyone access to quick leveling, not just the people who happened to know a couple of SMNs and RDMs, or the people who had the money to pay those people.
    Though I agree with a cap increase, it would inevitably turn people away fromt he game since it has already made itself the staple. On the flip side, a game without midgame content is lacking. We're already a game for complainers, just live with it the best you can and ride that train. Next stop FFXIWOW.(Oh wait, that was FFXIV. lol)
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    Player mystery's Avatar
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    I find that people that do nothing but abyssea burn are not nearly the players that a person that learned their job the old fashioned way knows theirs. You must not have partied with one of these ppl that have lvl 30 skills on a lvl 90 job
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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaenRyong View Post
    So instead of Abyssea burning, we will be stuck in East Ronfaure [S] and Qufim? Or Astral Burning?

    People are using Abyssea to level because the old way SUCKED. Trying to change it is just imposing your nostalgia on others. If people loved levelling the old way so much, they would.
    Yes, they did suck but standing there and not earning your levels sucks worse.
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    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miera View Post
    Yes, they did suck but standing there and not earning your levels sucks worse.
    This is why we need to get rid of all of these easy ways to get exp that prevent people from properly earning their levels. Get rid of FOV, get rid of ToAU camps, WotG camps, Campaign, Besieged, and those silly Heroes Reflections things. EXP rewards from battlefields should also be eliminated, level caps on CoP areas and level sync for equipment in those zones should be reversed. People need to earn their Rajas rings too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    This is why we need to get rid of all of these easy ways to get exp that prevent people from properly earning their levels. Get rid of FOV, get rid of ToAU camps, WotG camps, Campaign, Besieged, and those silly Heroes Reflections things. EXP rewards from battlefields should also be eliminated, level caps on CoP areas and level sync for equipment in those zones should be reversed. People need to earn their Rajas rings too.
    ...No.

    The game has been made easier. Returning back to its difficult mode will only cause people to quit playing. I would consider not playing as much anymore. I've enjoyed the new challenges presented in FFXI through soloing.

    All of the hardcore players had their years to feel good about their accomplishments. This is the year 2011. Let's have some fun in the game for a change.
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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meyi View Post
    ...No.

    The game has been made easier. Returning back to its difficult mode will only cause people to quit playing. I would consider not playing as much anymore. I've enjoyed the new challenges presented in FFXI through soloing.

    All of the hardcore players had their years to feel good about their accomplishments. This is the year 2011. Let's have some fun in the game for a change.
    I understand with what you are saying but how easy do you want things? Once SE hands everything to you you'll have nothing else left to do.
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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    i wouldn't say get rid of those Camps, they are actually helping the less fortunate jobs to level such as BLM. When they came out with the Wamoras and such, that was what BLMs ate, slept and Breathed all the way to 75 because no one wanted them in their parties. I had to also level my DNC with FoV and CoP areas, granted back then FoV was only once per game day but it was quite helpful to a slow job such as that. Campaign battle also was pretty helpful. I don't think we should get rid of that either since you cannot really Leech from Campaign battles because XP earning was based on your efforts in battle, not only that but you had to be in Campaign battle at a certain level or you'd get the snot beat out of you.

    I know someone who just started the game and started out as a BLM then it was already too late to find parties because abyssea was like crack to people and everyone practicaly stayed in it. I warned him that BLM was a hard job to level top began with and I tried showing the ropes of how you effectively play a Mage job. He never understood pet sniping and sleep nuking and all the wonderful things that mages do to solo eventually he burned his way to 90 and still doesn't have a clue what time nuking is. My only beef is the level cap, not the other zones, those were great zones to party in and figuring out how to play your job effectively.
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    Last edited by Miera; 03-16-2011 at 06:38 AM.
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