Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Maquis]

Ignoring /sch for a second, what does skilling up divine magic have to do with healing? Being able to do x does not prove they can do Y.

Okay, but /sch is not available in the fight itself.

If you spend enough time skilling up that skill, you at least put more time in playing the job (not leeching) before you reach higher levels.

[Rie]

You're acting as if skilling up is difficult.

[rog]

Okay, but /sch is not available in the fight itself.

Yay power of suggestion. Saw it mentioned, and didn't even think about it -.-

If you spend enough time skilling up that skill, you at least put more time in playing the job (not leeching) before you reach higher levels.

If i spend 10 months training how to cook bacon (and nothing else), does that make me a chef? Or perhaps all of that time was wasted doing some unimportant thing that shouldn't have taken more than 10 minutes to master, and thus is practically irrelevant to the rest of the field. Being able to set up a bot to cast banish on the zvahl fortalice all day does not do anything at all to improve your ability to keep an alliance alive.

[hiko]

Just beating Maat would be enough for me, what would be good for you?

maat cap syndrome players? (noobs fulltiming maat cap)

[Maquis]

You're acting as if skilling up is difficult.

Nope, just throwing out ideas. They could change the fights to reflect the changes made to all the jobs since the quest was made.

If I had a choice between raising the cap to 70+ or making Maat fight required for all jobs, I just know what I would choose.

[Maquis]

Yay power of suggestion. Saw it mentioned, and didn't even think about it -.-

If i spend 10 months training how to cook bacon (and nothing else), does that make me a chef? Or perhaps all of that time was wasted doing some unimportant thing that shouldn't have taken more than 10 minutes to master, and thus is practically irrelevant to the rest of the field. Being able to set up a bot to cast banish on the zvahl fortalice all day does not do anything at all to improve your ability to keep an alliance alive.

Okay, so they should beef up the fight? Make him always resist repose?

[rog]

Okay, so they should beef up the fight? Make him always resist repose?

You are missing the point. Just because someone can handle beating maat does not mean they can handle doing their actual job in a party. Likewise, just because they can handle level syncing to the dunes with a pl (where they do nothing but autoattack, and maybe ws, with no gear, or abilities) does not prove they can handle playing in a real party against real nms.

How often do you see brds meleeing? Never? Yet that is what they have to do for their maat fight. Why do they need to be able to melee? They don't.

[Maquis]

You are missing the point. Just because someone can handle beating maat does not mean they can handle doing their actual job in a party. Likewise, just because they can handle level syncing to the dunes with a pl (where they do nothing but autoattack, and maybe ws, with no gear, or abilities) does not prove they can handle playing in a real party against real nms.

How often do you see brds meleeing? Never? Yet that is what they have to do for their maat fight. Why do they need to be able to melee? They don't.

I think you are missing my point: It's a better solution than havin a level requirement of 70 in Abyssea.
Now, if they changed BRD Maat fight to have him win if he lands Lullaby... 8P

[rog]

I think you are missing my point: It's a better solution than capping Abyssea to 70.
Now, if they changed BRD Maat fight to have him win if he lands Lullaby... 8P

Both are terrible solutions.

And what is the problem that requires a solution anyway?

[Maquis]

Both are terrible solutions.

And what is the problem that requires a solution anyway?

Okay maybe not the best one, but with:

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I think it is present in the minds of some players.