Raise the minimum allowable job level in Abyssea from 30 to 70+

[Zeitzone]

I'm not sure where you went to school but... 0 is still 0. None sold after level sync and none sold after abyssea. I'm not going to waste gil putting something on AH 5 times on the off chance some random dude like you decides to be different. It is a fact that level sync has killed low levels as everyone obtains exp at two different areas.

Well you say it killed it, i never had a problem to sell my clothcraft items till Abyssea

[Thuggin]

I think this is a modest request. 30 is much too low to do anything in Abyssea. We know it specifically for key-whoring until you get into the upper levels in which case you are forced to skill-up and obtain spells that you missed out on with your exp binge.

I'm not calling anyone out who does this, but you got to admit it is kinda lame to be able to do this.

Lower the level to 0.

[Zeitzone]

again if SE changed it, you would not be going back to the "god awful horrible EXP" the change would be two fold (most likely) to lessen the blow, the cap would be raised and EXP outside would be adjusted again. You could get around 1k EXP a kill in a 6 man PT, then when you hit 70+ you can enter abyssea and level from 70-90 like you have been doing.

It would be a little slower then it is now, but not as slow as it used to be.

But it whould be closer to it and acceptable.
Ppl whould get more exp, but they will have to work for it again, and thats the main point.

[Kazen]

I'm going to go ahead and say it. 95% of the people in Abyssea are leeches. Unless you're a level 90 you're a leech. The people in this thread are such hypocrites; if you don't have the best possible gear and I'm doing 75% of the total damage for the alliance... guess what, everyone in that alliance is a leech. If you don't have Atma of the Razed Ruins you're a leech. If you're in an alliance wearing full pearl or pink you're a leech. If you do not have AF3 equipped you're a leech.

So what I'm trying to say is most of the people here against leeching are indeed leeches themselves.

[Ramsos]

again if SE changed it, you would not be going back to the "god awful horrible EXP" the change would be two fold (most likely) to lessen the blow, the cap would be raised and EXP outside would be adjusted again. You could get around 1k EXP a kill in a 6 man PT, then when you hit 70+ you can enter abyssea and level from 70-90 like you have been doing.

It would be a little slower then it is now, but not as slow as it used to be.

First of all, abyssea exp for 70-90+ wouldnt exist since you would have no chest leeches. No level 70 is going to waste their cruor opening boxes. The "everyone opens boxes" strategy is unfair since many people will obviously just "forget to buy keys" or "not see boxes" or "forget to open boxes".

Raising exp outside would do nothing to change the AH or skill up situation. People will just sync to collibri or smn burn to get to 70 asap.

[Zeitzone]

I'm going to go ahead and say it. 95% of the people in Abyssea are leeches. Unless you're a level 90 you're a leech. The people in this thread are such hypocrites; if you don't have the best possible gear and I'm doing 75% of the total damage for the alliance... guess what, everyone in that alliance is a leech. If you don't have Atma of the Razed Ruins you're a leech. If you're in an alliance wearing full pearl or pink you're a leech. If you do not have AF3 equipped you're a leech.

So what I'm trying to say is most of the people here against leeching are indeed leeches themselves.

Thats the most supid thing i ever heard in my life.
You leech if you are the guy whos orginaly low level and profits from other persons work.

[Zeitzone]

First of all, abyssea exp for 70-90+ wouldnt exist since you would have no chest leeches. No level 70 is going to waste their cruor opening boxes. The "everyone opens boxes" strategy is unfair since many people will obviously just "forget to buy keys" or "not see boxes" or "forget to open boxes".

Raising exp outside would do nothing to change the AH or skill up situation. People will just sync to collibri or smn burn to get to 70 asap.

You can not synch to colibris if you only can synch down to the low level in pt.

[Ramsos]

Thats the most supid thing i ever heard in my life.
You leech if you are the guy whos orginaly low level and profits from other persons work.

Actually he is 100% correct. If I'm am doing 75%+ of an 18 man alliances damage, what is the differance between a lvl 30 and a 90 in full pink, at least the 30 is opening boxes.

[Kazen]

Thats the most supid thing i ever heard in my life.
You leech if you are the guy whos orginaly low level and profits from other persons work.

Incorrect. I have never leeched an abyssea job before yet I'm all for abyssea leeching. You just assumed I was a leech because I'm debating for them. I'm sorry, please try again.

[Zeitzone]

Actually he is 100% correct. If I'm am doing 75%+ of an 18 man alliances damage, what is the differance between a lvl 30 and a 90 in full pink, at least the 30 is opening boxes.

The level 30 profits more from the chest as he deserved!