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    Player geekgirl101's Avatar
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    ok so we have sneak/invisible to get past, but like Continuity said once you reach your objective there's no way out again if you're not level 90. I'm level 28 max, I had to get help to see me through Inner Horotoro Ruins to get to the Mahogany Door and get out again. It is certainly poor design to have the only way out again as death if you don't have higher level assistance.
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    When they said they were adding high level monsters to what were traditionally low level zones, I thought these would be the less traveled out of the way parts of the zones, not smack in the middle of them. My favorite low levels camps are gone, it makes me little sad. If I do a new job I'll have to learn new camps I guess.

    And this was right on the heels of saying they'd make stuff that was EP to 75 stop agroing lv90+ in future updates...What is the point of adjusting those if we're putting in new agro anyway we'll just sneak/invis like always lol.
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    King Ranperre's tomb is an example of doing the mob placement intelligently, the higher level stuff is not likely to be stumbled on by a level 7. Problem is, they didn't bother with that as much with the new content. I'm about to be taking ranger up the ladder, AF is gonna be a pain in the ass, s/i or no with the new mobs in my way. Especially since you have to drop invis for almost every bit of it.
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    Player JovialRat's Avatar
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    what they should do is only make the mobs aggro ppl that have GoV running ( not sure if GoV is the same idea as FoV), but if you select w/e kill xxx 3 times, only then the mobs should aggro you.
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    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JovialRat View Post
    what they should do is only make the mobs aggro ppl that have GoV running ( not sure if GoV is the same idea as FoV), but if you select w/e kill xxx 3 times, only then the mobs should aggro you.
    Doesn't make a whole lot of sense from an in universe standpoint. A grizzly bear isn't going to check to see if I'm a bear hunter before mauling me, I doubt vana'diels creatures would either. Maybe some kind of gradually increasing agro range (starting at zilch) hate system based on the fact your attacking them 1st that wears off over time?
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    Player JovialRat's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    Doesn't make a whole lot of sense from an in universe standpoint. A grizzly bear isn't going to check to see if I'm a bear hunter before mauling me, I doubt vana'diels creatures would either. Maybe some kind of gradually increasing agro range (starting at zilch) hate system based on the fact your attacking them 1st that wears off over time?
    i totally understand what you are saying, but SE has made campaign mobs non aggro till you get tagged up.
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    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JovialRat View Post
    i totally understand what you are saying, but SE has made campaign mobs non aggro till you get tagged up.
    Yeah and now that I think about it, even the mor eintelligent beinsg in vana'diel aren't to bright..I mean, campaign is basically...

    "I know! Lets destroy the orcs forts while they are not present!"
    "Sire, shouldn't we occupy their fort and use it against them?"
    "That soldier is why you are still a private and I captain!
    "..."

    later that week

    "Grok have idea. We knock down silly elf fort and make our own!"
    "Grok is smart orc! We crush elf fort and spend all week making new fort!"
    "Gotblut want know why not destroy now while elf away."
    "Order from Chief say attack at noon. Grok napping till then. Grok say Gotblut need stfu."
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    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Who said it was hard, did I miss something? We've already been sneaking around for years and there aren't really any new players to to need to "learn to snk/invis". A little boring actually. I hope by 99 I can actually wonder some places without trivial crap making me stop every yards feet to recast.
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    SE needs to take a lesson from other MMOs and they need to pay attention this time. I would gladly pay to play an FF WoW clone. I know people bad mouth that MMO but it's a solid game. XI is fun I enjoyed it but now I don't have the time. Even if I did I wouldn't want to spend it on XI again.

    I like games like WoW because I can play a little and see the progress. We all know what XI's shortcomings are. I follow the game and get excited about what they do but I think it's time to redo some things. It's an old game but when I think what they could do with it if they remade XI it gets me feeling the vigor I did when I first started.
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    Player geekgirl101's Avatar
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    Damn straight. I am not being "spoon fed", I'm a new player with a now level 30 max character, gil is still rough to come by as every penny I earn I spend on new spells since the levels are going so fast I'm having trouble keeping up with the spells, and as result I'm still wearing level 10 gear (which isn't too bad as I'm levelling mostly in the dunes on sync anyways.) There is no chance in hell I can afford your 30-40k sneak/invis pots, nor your 45k invis scroll, for a mission that's done in a level 7 dungeon and will result in certain death once the mission objective is found.
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    Last edited by geekgirl101; 05-15-2011 at 09:51 AM.

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