lolRelic Weapon? SE what have you done?

[Sama]

As title said, SE needs to rethink what they have done and going to do with relic weapon.

Relic is the hardest piece of weapon to obtain and now it turns out to be an laughable topic in game because its weapon skill damage is so weak that most relic owner would just use something else.

As a relic owner I'm terrified and very upset every time I log-on and wield my relic weapon, especially when an emp weapon can easily one-shot an IT aby mob...

Think about it SE, they way it is now it's definitely off balance. People with relic weapon (like me) lost trust in you.

Can you advise? Or at least tell us that this is the way you want relic to be or you will do something about it.

[Randwolf]

...Relic is the hardest piece of weapon to obtain...

Most expensive, not difficult. You may have worked hard to get yours. But, I saw people who barely set foot in Dynamis walking around with multiple weapons. IMHO, I have more respect for Mythic weapons. At least they appear to involve more effort. In fact, I know people who earned their relic through Casino's and, worse, buying gil. So, to point at everyone who has a relic and state 'they put in a lot of effort' is a grand generalization.

[Sama]

Most expensive, not difficult. You may have worked hard to get yours. But, I saw people who barely set foot in Dynamis walking around with multiple weapons. IMHO, I have more respect for Mythic weapons. At least they appear to involve more effort. In fact, I know people who earned their relic through Casino's and, worse, buying gil. So, to point at everyone who has a relic and state 'they put in a lot of effort' is a grand generalization.

You can do the same with Emp Wpn... Just /sh in Jeuno people will sale you any ra/ex item... If you are talking about gil buying then this game is pointless...

I believe most relic owner worked hard on their weapon; those b00b relic owners are likely have bought the account from others; or got from friends. As before lvl75 cap raised, I don't believe you can 'buy' a team to fight the relic NM. You can buy all coins but not the NM... you have to make a team...

[sandman]

They do need to beef up relic weapons.

[Randwolf]

You can do the same with Emp Wpn... Just /sh in Jeuno people will sale you any ra/ex item... If you are talking about gil buying then this game is pointless...

I believe most relic owner worked hard on their weapon; those b00b relic owners are likely have bought the account from others; or got from friends. As before lvl75 cap raised, I don't believe you can 'buy' a team to fight the relic NM. You can buy all coins but not the NM... you have to make a team...

There are merc teams that will do the fight for you. Expensive but possible. And, I'm guessing we'll start seeing a lot more of that with Dynamis being allowed once per day (I believe that is in an upcoming update). There truly is little in the game that you can't get with enough gil. Even the Mythic quests can be bought.

[Unctgtg]

Maybe they will get the idea. Me being a relic own since 2006 and being on top of the DD world, 2 nerfs to my relic, and now being completely pushed to the bottom of the barrel sucks lol.

[Tamarsamar]

Maybe they will get the idea. Me being a relic own since 2006 and being on top of the DD world, 2 nerfs to my relic, and now being completely pushed to the bottom of the barrel sucks lol.

"Bottom of the barrel"? Which one, the elitist barrel?

Seriously, dude, barring Empyrean Weapons (which are, indeed, a problem), you'll still be hard-pressed to find a weapon that performs on-par with a Relic Weapon in terms of raw damage output (and odds are it's a multi-hit weapon in a very specific situation). Perhaps you (among certain other people) are being just a little overly dramatic?

[Sama]

"Bottom of the barrel"? Which one, the elitist barrel?

Seriously, dude, barring Empyrean Weapons (which are, indeed, a problem), you'll still be hard-pressed to find a weapon that performs on-par with a Relic Weapon in terms of raw damage output (and odds are it's a multi-hit weapon in a very specific situation). Perhaps you (among certain other people) are being just a little overly dramatic?

Tamarsamar the WS is the real problem. It's very upsetting for every relic owner, especially font line job, seeing the crazy dmg gap between relic and emp. In terms of raw dmg I agree with you but WS was the main point for relic.

[Tamarsamar]

Tamarsamar the WS is the real problem. It's very upsetting for every relic owner, especially font line job, seeing the crazy dmg gap between relic and emp. In terms of raw dmg I agree with you but WS was the main point for relic.

Apologies for coming off uninformed here, but are people seriously out-performing Relics with equally-leveled Walk of Echoes Empyrean Weapon Skill weapons (say, level 90 Excalibur vs. Badelaire +2)? If so, then your point holds water.

[lowkey]

Every time SE alters the game someone feels like they've been gyped in some way. When they lessened the exp requirement 60+, people said that it undermined all the "hard" work they put into leveling up. When they nerfed the Promys, and fixed it so that you didn't lose exp for dying, people said it cheapened their accomplishment of finishing CoP pre-nerfs. When they released ToAU and blms were no longer "necessary" for efficient parties, blms who had been manaburning only for years, and wouldn't give exp parties the time of day whined that it made them useless. People always threaten to quit in protest, but few do.

When you log into the game there's a warning which says you are agreeing to the TOS by logging in. In that TOS it clearly states that the game is subject to change, with or without notice. That is the nature of all online games.

And just for the record, I'm one of the bsts who got all butthurt when SE nerfed MPK. I said I'd quit. I ranted to anyone who wanted to listen (Or not. Whatever, I didn't care because I was pissed, and wanted everyone to know it, whether they wanted to or not). Turns out we were just acting like spoiled babies. Turns out the change did way more good for everyone including us (especially us), than harm. Turns out the world didn't end, it didn't lead to communists eating the world's supply of kittens, and most importantly that nobody else gave a rat's ass.