@stylin. My point is that the RDM threads that want more melee/tank options always point to this idea that RDM's are supposed to be an up front fighter as well as Mage. Yes, they can but RDM ARE supposed to do so in a "limited" quantity or quality. Saying they "suck", is a comparative statement. They suck compared to a melee job or tank job. They do a lot better than other Mage jobs. This is what game balance is supposed to be like..not a RDM that can weaponskill for 2k and drop another 4k in nukes.