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    Player Xikeroth's Avatar
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    Hey SE seems to have no issues with MONKS tanking weaker NMs, I think SE should re-think RDM as a whole because what they wanted us to be just isn't needed or isn't done. I remember with proper SATA from SAMs I was RDM/NIN tanking Byakko quite decently(even though he still hurt lol)

    I think SE needs to take a serious look at RDM because instead of being the frontline "jack of all trades" they wanted us to be people stuck us to one trade, cure.
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    RDM tanking in my experiences is a lot of fun! To do so successfully you will need a lot of patience and practice. The first thing you will want to do is get as much VIT, DEF, and -physical damage gear as you can. Second is get the highest DEF "type 1" shield you can, this will make a HUGE difference; it doesn't matter that the "type 1" shield blocks less damage per hit because it blocks more often and with Stoneskin and Phalanx on, the difference becomes null except in the case of a critical hit. Keep your opponent/s in front of you to allow the shield and parry to proc. Shield and parry might not be much in and of themselves but every "grain" of sand will be added to cement a wall of defense. Keep Aquaveil on at all times; along with -spell casting interruption rate gear(macro swap in your Warlock's Tabard for Stoneskin) and merits. You really only need for Stoneskin to last until it can be recast; if it lasts longer than that, it's just icing on the cake. Campain battles are a great place to practice tanking especially so if you can get your hands on some of the Campain specific gear. Icespikes are a RDM's best friend along with a pair of Duelist's tights. Use Enaero II to lower you foe's resistance(if any) to ice magic so that your ice spikes will have a probability of greater effect. To engage your enemies with "Composure" I think says a lot about what it takes to tank as a RDM. The ability is amazing by itself, but the real magic is in the meaning.
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    "We Redmages wield a vast array of power and as such it is incumbent upon us to govern ourselves with sober forethought to our actions."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zade View Post
    RDM tanking in my experiences is a lot of fun! To do so successfully you will need a lot of patience and practice. The first thing you will want to do is get as much VIT, DEF, and -physical damage gear as you can. Second is get the highest DEF "type 1" shield you can, this will make a HUGE difference; it doesn't matter that the "type 1" shield blocks less damage per hit because it blocks more often and with Stoneskin and Phalanx on, the difference becomes null except in the case of a critical hit. Keep your opponent/s in front of you to allow the shield and parry to proc. Shield and parry might not be much in and of themselves but every "grain" of sand will be added to cement a wall of defense. Keep Aquaveil on at all times; along with -spell casting interruption rate gear(macro swap in your Warlock's Tabard for Stoneskin) and merits. You really only need for Stoneskin to last until it can be recast; if it lasts longer than that, it's just icing on the cake. Campain battles are a great place to practice tanking especially so if you can get your hands on some of the Campain specific gear. Icespikes are a RDM's best friend along with a pair of Duelist's tights. Use Enaero II to lower you foe's resistance(if any) to ice magic so that your ice spikes will have a probability of greater effect. To engage your enemies with "Composure" I think says a lot about what it takes to tank as a RDM. The ability is amazing by itself, but the real magic is in the meaning.
    You have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    You have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, do you?
    Nope, he doesn't.

    The SATA nonsense above was pretty silly too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cidbahamut View Post
    You have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, do you?
    I don't think his post says anything wrong. He's just stating what he feels about RDM tanking, the same as what the topic is. If anything if SE reads it, it's a positive note that someone enjoyed doing it.

    As for my opinion of the subject, I really have not much to say since I've never done it. My RDM was leveled after the change was implemented. Though I can comment that that update caused my BRD to die much more due to Sleep enmity being nonexistent.

    I don't think that SE purposely used that update to nerf RDM tanking. I feel that they were trying to give a bone to BLMs that complain of dying due to the CE building over time.
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    Last edited by Valkrist; 03-10-2011 at 11:31 AM.

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    Player Tamarsamar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrist View Post
    I don't think that SE purposely used that update to nerf RDM tanking. I feel that they were trying to give a bone to BLMs that complain of dying due to the CE building over time.
    Read the post above yours: if this is truly the case, why hasn't the enmity on Sleepga been reduced?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrist View Post
    I don't think his post says anything wrong. He's just stating what he feels about RDM tanking, the same as what the topic is.
    No, no he is not. He's yammering on about how to not fall down while wielding a sword and shield. That is not tanking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkrist View Post
    I don't think that SE purposely used that update to nerf RDM tanking. I feel that they were trying to give a bone to BLMs that complain of dying due to the CE building over time.
    That might explain sleep (but not really, because even for ablm, it's a pain in the ass, not having the mob wake up and come right to us, just because someone used a cure1 on us, and instead runs off to who the hell knows where), but not blind, dispel, and bind. It was a nerf directed at us, pure and simple. They removed ever last source of CE for us, except cures which give very little, and cost huge amounts of mp.
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