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  1. #41
    Player Novati's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    So if I play a non-party job and have no friends I should be allowed to be invincible? There isn't even any skill to it, it's -100% pdt. Can go watch tv while the pet fights it.
    There's also no skill to a tank or DD getting curebombed by a whm mule with almost unlimited mp as well. There's far too many of these duos happening in Abyssea lately more than a few pet soloists. Also most BSTs don't really use -100% PDT. Alot like to sacrifice some pdt for atmas like RR to help speed up a fight. Infact many with a decent pdt and mdt build will favour to slap on more dmg potential until problems start to arise in keeping up with reward and call beast timers.

    To OP:
    If someone who is solo'ing is taking too long and you are impatient then ask them if they'd like help to speed up the fight to save you waiting longer. When I solo I tend to make sure there isn't any one in the area planning on fighting the same NM anytime soon. If someone does come along and it seems I might be awhile (though it only takes around 10-20mins depending on the NM) then I'll ask if they'd like to help or accept help if they offer it. Sometimes there are people who just stand there impatiently like morons and don't respond to any offer. In that case they only have themselves to blame.

    Furthermore there will be times I go to solo a NM for 1 pop that may take me 5-10mins if I fight alongside my pet. However when I get to the place there will be a party there spamming the NM for a good hour or so, refuse to reply, and popping as soon as the ??? is up. I just move to something else thats free or come back later. How is that fair to me? I do believe that pet jobs are the only players that show any kind of courtesy in this game.

    To wrap up though:

    I don't feel the need for -100%pdt and pet jobs can perform MUCH better if they refrain from the gimmick of being almost invincible. (They still take abit of magic dmg)

    However the OP seems more of a rant about soloists than about PDT in which the player was unhelpful, uncourteous, and very impatient. Did you really stand there and do nothing for 60mins watching someone solo? O_o;
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  2. #42
    Player Akujima's Avatar
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    Shinjima
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    Asura
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    PLD Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    Np shoulda seen that and put solo in a differnt paragraph shouldn't assume that you had any idea how good blm was at soloing. I mean how esle did they get 75. The 10+blms was to show that you didn't need a tank or pulling hate was a bad thing only crappy blms got killed in a couple of hits. The game used to be throw as amny blms at a mob that you could find.
    Actually the whole notion of BLM's solo'ing in the first place, was conceived after the conception of rigidly formed Merit PT's consisting of WAR, SAM, SAM, RDM, BRD, BRD.

    Everyone was so hell bent on WAR, SAM, RDM and BRD, that they refused to invite other jobs to their groups, let alone acknowledge their existence. People who played anything but those 4 jobs, had to find ways for themselves to Level Up.

    The same imbalance continues today, except one thing is different; it's just been dumped onto other jobs.
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  3. #43
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    Ravenns
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    No your wrong again. BLMs dump merit parties long before merit parties dump them. Mana burns were around before TP burns. Arens used to be able to RR iirc up to 5 times so you could solo for almost as much exp as a reg party and get more then one blm and do a old school mana burn could blow away TP burn before toau. Only till TaAU came out did TP burns get more exp then mana burns, got to remember back then 10k a hour was godly exp. So mobs that was really hard to run out of in a place that no tp brun party would ever set foot in with no only one annoying stat effect that could be removed by /whm or item was pretty nice till SE said no and nerf them.
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  4. #44
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    Avina
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    RDM Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    Look. Just take FFXI offline, and we can "tweet" to eachother in game about what we're doing.

    You know how many problems that would solve?
    No competition, No having to "wait" for someone to finish killing their NM, No having to compete for what's being dropped. Solves alot of the major problems that many people are having, if you ask me.
    I want to archive your posts, sir, you have me rolling on the floor lol
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  5. #45
    Player Ravenmore's Avatar
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    Crap I keep thinking of other ideas after hitting reply. Sam used to not get invited to tp burns the best groups were war/nin DWing axes or axe/muti-hit weapon nin/war, or even better tp burn was mnk/war x4, brd, whm in a good old KRT party. couldn't find a brd grab a another mnk/war and go to town.
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    Last edited by Ravenmore; 05-11-2011 at 08:47 PM.

  6. #46
    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Odin
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    PLD Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    If I could get -100% Physical damage taken on PLD I would be all over it and would make pld amazingly broken. It's not that hard to get either, an Atma and some magian weapons, -50% is ok but -100% is completely silly.
    I can easily hit the 50% gear cap on several jobs pld included, just like pet jobs do for their pets. The rest is done by atma. If you've got a burtang (yeah I know, unlikely) the update allows you go past the normal gear cap as well, and lets not even start on the ochain argument. The point is you can make yourself see lots of zero's for melee damage from mobs.
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  7. #47
    Player Limecat's Avatar
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    This also doesn't address all the potential issues a BST setup like that has. Heavy slip damage via dia/bio/poison/whatever effects and auras, TP moves from the NMs that reset hate or can cause petrification, heavy magic spam... all these things will still kill a pdt BST. About the only argument I could agree with is that maybe each Abyssean NM with no magical damage should get an enelement/spell/magic TP attack/hate reset or three. The BST is still working to stay on top of things either way. You may as well complain that DNC needs to be nerfed because they can solo things if they're paying attention and keeping up with the battle. Or maybe you want Ochain removed from the game too while we're at it? Like many others here however, it sounds more to me like you're just butthurt that you couldn't fight an NM at the time you wanted. Offer to help next time if you're in such a hurry.
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  8. #48
    bst>equip -100% pdt/Atma set-up>fight ___>___ casts Aeroga IV>___ casts Aeroga IV>pet dies>Call Beast -1:38 seconds>___ whacks Bst>Bst dead

    Shut up and go work on your play skill, maybe earn some -pdt gear and Atma for yourself since it does exist. I didn't see you complaining about the ninja claiming an NM and taking an hour to solo it... or the blue... or the dnc... or the blm... or the rdm... or the mnk... or the drg..., see a trend?
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  9. #49
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    I don't have a pet job, but it sounds kinda interesting ,however even by searching i haven't found any info on this, so could someone tell me: What exactly do you need to actually get 100% pdt? o.o pwetty please tell the kitty cat? .-.
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  10. #50
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    Now that the cat's out of the bag (no, I'm not a BST), I'm guessing that BST pets will see the same treatment that SMN avatars received a little while ago.
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