Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
Argument to nerf bst: I hate bst cuz they shouldn't be able to do anything that doesn't make them conform to how I think the game should be played.
Wrong. But you seem hard to convince otherwise, I can't prove that I don't hate BST, and unless I did I doubt you would believe it. If it helps: I'm a SMN, and I think the nerf we received was good. I don't want it because it would make BST soloing impossible (because it wouldn't and if you think you need 100% PDT reduction to be good, then you're not as good as you think you are), but because it's implausible. The other thread actually does offer a nice analogy, 100% Haste would break the game. Same with -100% damage taken, only in a more boring way.

And you still think BST takes massive magical damage, which is wrong. They can get a huge magic damage reduction as well (far higher than any player, just not quite 100%), which also works on DoT spells and spikes. Of course they're not completely invincible on everything, but on some things they are. And there's quite a few. There's whole families of mobs who don't use magical attacks like Cactuars and Scorpions (Hedjedjet is a one-time exception). Then there's Tablilla, Awahondo, Koghatu, Blanga, Audumbla, Yaguarogui, and lots more who can be killed by simple engaging and going afk to make lunch or something, a guaranteed kill with zero risk. Something like that shouldn't be possible at all. With the right positioning, a good BST could even take on Alfard and similar NMs without ever taking a single point of damage.

Then there's plenty of NMs that only use some magic, which is still manageable, because of their high magical damage reduction. And there's some mobs who don't cast but only use magical TP moves. However, if you're getting hit for 0, the mob's TP gain will be significantly slower, so a lot less TP moves are gonna be used in the first place, not all of which are magical. Only a few mobs which spam spells like no tomorrow will pose a challenge (Teekesselchen, Empousa, and a handful of others). This includes god-tier NMs like Pantokrator, Rani and Shinryu (using god-tier as a relative term).

Hate reset is almost a non-issue, since the BST can take a few hits before they die, which is more than enough to get hate back for any pet. If anything, it sounds like you're exaggerating BST's survival deficiencies, which really aren't there. BST is one of the sturdiest jobs in the game right now, as is PUP. Also, you're exaggerating their offensive deficiencies, as a single BST pet is still an average damage dealer.

Also remember that, if the cap was reduced to, say, 80%, while you would actually have to put some effort into keeping your pet alive, you would have to put a lot less effort into obtaining the remaining 20% PDT. Which means, you can use that to take on another DD Atma, or keep the Atma and invest in more DD gear. Either way, I don't think it would go a lot slower, maybe even faster than it goes now, it would just be harder to pull it off.

Quote Originally Posted by Xilk View Post
Argument not to nerf it: Its not broken. Don't submit to noisy haters.
One could argue to not submit to obsessive fanboys either.

Quote Originally Posted by Yinnyth View Post
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