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  1. #221
    Player Greatguardian's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    *sigh* go away Greatguardian.
    Nah. 0123456789
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  2. #222
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    Imagine if someone posted in 2008 ish "Sam needs a nerf , its too powerful". I can't even picture the drama and crying from something like that. In a way im happy these forums didn't start up till recently.
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heady View Post
    Imagine if someone posted in 2008 ish "Sam needs a nerf , its too powerful". I can't even picture the drama and crying from something like that. In a way im happy these forums didn't start up till recently.
    BST isn't too powerful though. If you think "Bst = overpowered" is the primary complaint from the faction of posters here who know what they're talking about and dislike 100% PDT, you're missing the point entirely.
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  4. #224
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    23 pages for this...seriously?

    Don't people have better things to do then police the community?

    I really don't see an issue with BST being able to get their pet to 100% PDT inside abyssea (read that again, it's ONLY in Abyssea), if the mob kills the BST then it doesn't really matter what our pet can do.

    Burning a pet job (or all your jobs) to 90, doesn't mean you understand anything about how the job functions and since you didn't know BST could do this before you ran into one actually doing it, means you don't understand everything else happening while the pet is at 100% PDT.

    1. We can't even use the single most used job ability by our job at all in Abyssea, Charm, name 1 other job this happens to in Abyssea? Oh you can't can you?
    2. It's ONLY in Abyssea, where everything is broken anyway, no where else can a BST achieve this and it's ONLY by using 2x Atma slots (which in return destroys our ability to do significant damage).
    3. This only works with our pet at or below 50%.
    4. This only works on NM's that don't have slip/DoT/Magical damage.
    5. The BST themselves don't get the 100% PDT bouns.

    Do I use a 100% PDT set for BST? No, I don't because with my style of play I don't need it.

    Do I see an issue with it or see it as an exploit? No, no more then I see a Brew as being an exploit...I see 5 other issues we have to deal with while using everything we do to achieve the 100% PDT build.

    In regards to 'why didn't SE patch all pets when they patched SMN'. To my understanding the SMN patch was done because it was a native issue, popped pet was 100% and had 100% PDT, they didn't need to change anything about gear/atma/etc. to achieve it.

    To me it looks like you ran into a BST that was probably just seeing if they could solo it with that setup, the way you worded your original post, makes it sound like you're whining about a BST taking and soloing 'your' mob. For what it's worth, any BST that knows the job, knows damn well it's better to get a couple people to help proc then it is to waste countless hours soloing for no drops. The fact that an Eva build with Yully is generally more productive to solo then a 100% PDT build. You ran into an idiot, plain and simple.

    Maybe, just maybe, SE left this as is, because sole JA that we relied on for song long was taken away (and the fact we have to jump through a bunch of hoops to even get this build), they chose to give us the ability to continue soloing as we did for so long? It's really ok to think outside your box every once in a while before you go screaming/whining that it's an exploit/bug/issue.

    SE can take it away or they can keep it in, I don't care either way since I don't use it, if they do then the BST community will adapt yet again, like we always have (hello MPK patch/Zoo nerf).

    You probably would have got a better reaction from the community, plainly asking a Dev why it was this way.

    So....Dev's/Community Rep's, why is this functioning the way it is?
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  5. #225
    Player Heady's Avatar
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    No , I get the point, just a drama comparison. While I do support the high bst -pdt, I didn't realize you could fully block something like 60k needles. That seems a bit extreme when something like Cactrot Rapido could easily have mowed you down if you didn't have enough targets phalanx, ss etc. before the cap increase.
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    Is it "broken"? probably. Is it ruining the game for the rest of us? Nope! Bst got shit on for the longest time. Let them have their little victories.
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  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    Oversimplifying which invites arguments that we have it to easy. You have to give up some stuff to achieve it. Losing room for atma that could have been DD based and/or gear that has to be specifically for it, like the mini expansion augment gear. And honestly going for a full 100% is in most cased not so hot, more efficient to go with some DD power and/or regen. Even at 100% You can't just afk and wait for a win like people seem to think. Several tp attacks ignore pdt even if we ignore other damage types for this argument like mercurial strike. And you know what? With ZERO pdt gear or atma I can solo Briareus (I won't becaus eI can't proc, but others have). Eva and regen and a couple pet food zeta. I've seen a nin/dnc solo it to. Frankly Utsusemi is more effective than a pdt setup if only because it blocks single target magic attacks.

    This whole thread going on this long is absurd. Counter holding, not nerf a job. Mob rage was MADE for holding so lets buff that http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ing-raged-mobs
    If you've been reading then you know that I have no -100% pdt, and have no plans to get it. I solo fine without it. It is simply 1 way bst can solo, not the only way, and arguably (as you just did) not even the best way. But it is there, and it is available to anyone that wants it. You simply have to do some work.

    I know in this aby ez mode era working for something is a foreign concept to most players, but it is a viable way to get things done.
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  8. #228
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    I didn't know you could key leech Crafting levels too.

    Edit: Or Masamunes
    WOOOOSH!!!
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Personally, I think the OP just hated the fact that somebody could be killing the mob they wanted by themselves and not him.

    If you really want to solo a NM, go level a pet job, and get off our backs.
    or just about any other job for that matter...
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  10. #230
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    Yinnyth
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    100% PDT is a bit overboard. That being said, pet jobs have long been in need of help, and this is not an immediate threat to the balance of the game. So, should it be fixed? Eventually, but not until pet jobs are actually considered desirable.
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