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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    You have to be honest, -100pdt is pretty stupid.
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    Player Vold's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You have to be honest, -100pdt is pretty stupid.
    Not really, if you understood just what it takes to get that 100%. And while I'm not a BST 90 with 100% PDT pet nor will I be anytime soon if ever, I also have any of a dozen jobs welcomed in Abyssea. I really do not shed a tear for anyone hurt emotionally by this. Go BST. You damn well deserve it.
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    Player Cyranda's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    Not really, if you understood just what it takes to get that 100%. And while I'm not a BST 90 with 100% PDT pet nor will I be anytime soon if ever, I also have any of a dozen jobs welcomed in Abyssea. I really do not shed a tear for anyone hurt emotionally by this. Go BST. You damn well deserve it.
    I tend to agree with this sentiment. BST, PUP and, to some degree, SMN, are rarely welcomed to Abyssea except to solo (and that's just welcoming themselves), never to parties that require procs, and so people who enjoy playing them and not, say, BLM, WHM, BLU, BRD, WAR, MNK or NIN, should rightly be able to get something on them (and so should other jobs that commonly get looked over). The fact that jobs regularly invited to proc groups have to wait for some poor BST, SMN or any other rarely invited job to finish slowly killing a monster are not high on my sympathy list; they already get to blaze through killing and getting their stuff when the unfortunate job isn't there, and that's the VAST majority of the time (not to mention that they can proc and actually get stuff at a reasonable speed), and they can actually come on a job they LIKE to play.

    If you want the BST to get its butt out of your way, maybe you should convince SE to encourage people to actually invite it so people who enjoy playing BST can actually do so and not have to deal with both being rejected and the demands that it cease doing the only things it actually can. That way EVERYONE can have some fun and get stuff instead of just people who like a few select jobs.
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    Last edited by Cyranda; 05-11-2011 at 04:40 PM.

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    Player Malamasala's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You have to be honest, -100pdt is pretty stupid.
    Well, over 20% haste is stupid. SE just loves giving people game breaking options.
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    Player SNK's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You have to be honest, -100pdt is pretty stupid.
    Considering the lack of invites I ever got as a BST except by other BSTs pre-abyessa I'm personally all for it. Truthfully tho it's pretty ballin you can reach that cap.
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    Player Elexia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    You have to be honest, -100pdt is pretty stupid.
    Nope, but I'm sure players want it only for themselves. I've literally seen a bunny tank the living fu- out of every iron giant.

    It was amazing. Even Iron Giants can't stand up to XI's bunnies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    Nope, but I'm sure players want it only for themselves. I've literally seen a bunny tank the living fu- out of every iron giant.

    It was amazing. Even Iron Giants can't stand up to XI's bunnies.
    A white killer bunny to be precise. Only difference is its on our side.

    If SE is going to clamp down on PDT (thanks for adding that pet: -3%pdt backpiece btw) then they could focus more on giving BST more pet evasion. Also a thf type Puk jug would be nice with Z.Mantle.

    The nerf will probably only end up like the SMN nerf at the start of the year. Nothing is really going to change except pets will always be able to take at least 1dmg. In some cases it will be worse with some BSTs replacing DD atmas to PDT again to compensate for the loss. Resulting in even slower solo fights.

    If it's too severe then expect to see more bandwagon nins and thfs showing up very soon.

    One definite result of this though will be the increased consumption of jugs and pet food meaning higher costs and less inventory space. SE better consider increasing the stack sizes of jugs/petfood like people want if they are pulling this on them. And make that dawn mulsum stackable too.
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    Player Arcon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novati View Post
    [..] Nothing is really going to change except pets will always be able to take at least 1dmg. In some cases it will be worse with some BSTs replacing DD atmas to PDT again to compensate for the loss. Resulting in even slower solo fights.
    Quite the opposite is the case. If they cap PDT reduction at 80% for example, you won't have to use that extra Atma to get that high. So either you turn that into a DD Atma, in the hopes you kill faster, or you change that one into a Regen Atma, which doesn't change DD capabilities at all. Either way, it shouldn't make the fights last longer.
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