Leaving FFXI…again.

[Tsukino_Kaji]

If only SE would take the players requests seriously.

Except they take all of the wrong ones seriously and turn it into a game for complainers.

[PizzaTheHut]

Goodbye, make sure you let the door hit you on the way out. This way you'll remember to stay gone.

Yes because encouraging a player to stay gone is gonna breathe new life into the game and extend its service...

[Greatguardian]

Yes because encouraging a player to stay gone is gonna breathe new life into the game and extend its service...

Yup, because so many other games on the market die after 10 years when they are older and have fewer players than FFXI.

[Kazemusha]

If no one ever complains then nothing ever gets fixed. It's one of the biggest problems with our society. If you got a hand full of people complaining about a situation and 90% of the rest of the people just sit around going "Meh…whatever…I'll just "deal with it" the way it is…" then the people at the top making all the decisions for us can do whatever they want. I guess they figure…if the problem was serious enough more people would have complained. This applies equally to real life as it does ingame.

If something is wrong, then you should /shout about it as loud as you can. Don't just sit there and be complacent like a bunch of sheep. I'm not a game programmer or designer, so logistically there is nothing much I can do to "repair the game" myself. Complaining and/or canceling my subscription is the only thing that can get anything done. Trust me…if less people were so complacent and SquareEnix started to hemorrhage subscriptions due to some poorly implemented or ill thought out patch they would fix it right away.

Unfortunately being complacent is something people have learned to accept. It makes them more docile and easier to manage and control. If you cannot see that then you are already a sheep.

[Greatguardian]

I thought you quit.

Protip: The best "feedback" you can give is with the power of the purse. If you dislike the game, quit paying for it.

[Anewie]

Actually this was SE's answer TO the playerbase. Look at how many people complained about people leveling in abyssea bla bla bla. Their solution was to add high level mobs everywhere so people would exp outside of abyssea.

Everyone bitched about it for months. SE gives us the solution and the same people are complaining that it's still stupid.

Lol. Oh there is so much wrong with this post. I'm sorry but you're so off the mark its not even funny.

NO ONE was complaining about exp. Maybe starcade, but that speaks for itself. Nobody was complaining about experience points once DOM OP abys zones came out, ok? Now, were people asking for alternate exp ways outside of abyssea, sure! but only a very small fraction and they didn't have abyssea...

Okay so we got that so many updates ago. If you honestly think this update was a result of people demanding SO MANY MORE WAYS TO EXP, idk what to say to you other than. Get out.

And I wanna those reciepts btw. Show me the posts on any forum where people are complaining and asking for new ways to exp. I gotta see this cause Im calling BS ALERT!

EDIT: re-read it and Maybe you're not saying people were asking for new ways to exp and that they were jst asking for.. SE to make alternate ways of exping so people wont exp in abyssea? Again, pointless is pointless. The only people who wanna exp outside abyssea are people who like to solo/duo/trio or don't have abyssea and they dont make up a large enough fraction of the game to inconvienance an entire group of people: lower levels..

[Greatguardian]

Lol. Oh there is so much wrong with this post. I'm sorry but you're so off the mark its not even funny.

One, NO ONE was complaining about exp. Maybe starcade, but that speaks for itself. Nobody was complaining about experience points once DOM OP abys zones came out, ok? Now, were people asking for alternate exp ways outside of abyssea, sure but only a very small fraction and they didn't have abyssea...

Okay so we got that so many updates ago. If you honestly think this update was a result of people demanding SO MANY MORE WAYS TO EXP, idk what to say to you other than. Get out.

And I wanna those reciepts btw. Show me the posts on any forum where people are complaining and asking for new ways to exp. I gotta see this cause Im calling BS ALERT!

It was a long time before you started posting here but they definitely exist. There were a few 2,000+ post threads in General Discussion about how much Abyssea EXP was ruining the game, how it needed to be restricted to 75+, and how players needed more EXP mobs outside Abyssea so that they can "stop leeching and start learning their jobs the right way."

Give me a few and I'll look for them and edit the links into here. Keep in mind at least 1,500 posts worth of threads eventually got nuked by the GMs so there was way more than I can even link here now.

Edit: Found a couple of them. Enjoy~

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...-from-30-to-70

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...leveling-91-99

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/th...ssea-from-30-1

I think the rest either got nuked or locked early. I know Krystal made like 3-4 threads which were all nuked, one or two of which had a decent number of replies. It was pretty big at the time.

[Anewie]

It was a long time before you started posting here but they definitely exist. There were a few 2,000+ post threads in General Discussion about how much Abyssea EXP was ruining the game, how it needed to be restricted to 75+, and how players needed more EXP mobs outside Abyssea so that they can "stop leeching and start learning their jobs the right way."

Again, I know I prolly seem mega bitchy and I apologize, but.. What did this update solve? Adding lvl90-100 mobs in low lvl areas isnt stopping ppl from leeching, Leeching is x100 easier and more relaxing than making a party the normal way. If they leech, do you really think they gonna see this update and think "OMG! WE CAN EXP THE NORMAL WAY NOW! Totally awesome!", no.

I'm not saying you're wrong, i'm saying its completley pointless. A better fix would simply be, restrict abyssea leeching lvl to 75. Making more alternate ways of exp that resemble the old and much more incovienant way of gaining levels is not going to attract people who enjoy leeching their jobs to 90.

Honestly, who knows what SE is thinking. Their logic is just o.o! Its funny and silly as it is redic.

idkmybffjill.

[Greatguardian]

Oh I never said the new mobs were an awesome idea =P. But if enough players rant and rave and demand retarded things, we're going to get fairly retarded updates. I was just confirming that the players here did, in fact, rant and rave and demand retarded things which would line up with this update.

I'm also of the opinion, personally, that their "Exp outside Abyssea more" feedback had a tiny bit to do with Kings being updated to require Kindred Seals (which you can only get from level 50-80 mobs outside Abyssea).

[Anewie]

Take myself for example. I'm not a bad player and I enjoy abyssea leeching. That's what abyssea is for. Relax and play casually, and still get exp/gear. I have zero interest in exping outside abyssea because i can relax more, get better exp, and potentially get seals/gear at the same time. Takes very little effort come compared to before. I can actually relax too. Does that mean I dont wanna do elite/hardcore stuff or learn my jobs, No but when I wanna relax, abyssea is the place and event to do that.

Making more ways to exp outside of abyssea that are harder AND at the same time offer much less reward: I ask myself how this would benefit me. Simple answer is, it doesnt...

Doing something just because its harder and thought and focus provoking is not the same as striving for and being the best. A person who just does things because its hard is a retard. A person who strives to be the best and build themselves up to that goal in time, in hopes of a better reward is a good player. Idk about the next guy, but I can manage exping in abyssea and then capping/raising my skills outside of abyssea, and thats more convienant for me.


Maybe its just me though.