Any new HNM coming?

[Ragmar]

There are two sides to this. The bot crowd and the non bot crowd. The question is simple SE ... where do you stand? Are you going to promote continued botting or are you going to create content which eliminates the most notorious aspect of this game?

When I started this game if you were found to be a botter you would be kicked from your LS, your future endevours were then so severly limited by your reputation that people often chose to start a new character on a new server. Inaction on the part of SE over the years made botting seem almost acceptable. Thankfully most of the cheaters went to FFXIV since their ability to bot claim force popped NMs wasnt as valuable anymore and all their "hard earned" gear became less epeenish. /Sadface. But if you bring back HNMs that are relavent and exploitable in the same manor then /farewell. I'm not going to waste years chasing gear that only those willing to cheat have real chances to obtain.

[Dethard]

A reason I would not like new HNM's like the old ones is the long re-spawn time. Everyone pays the same for the game and should have an opportunity to fight these mobs to obtain equipment or drops. Fair enough if they are difficult and you don't have the skill then you cant get the drops, but a HNM that pops once every 72 hours will only spawn approximately 122 times a year. I am not sure on server populations but say for example there are 5000 people on a server and everyone took a turn it would take over 40 years for everyone to have a chance at that HNM, effectively meaning majority of server have little or no chance of ever fighting the HNM let alone getting the drops.

These type of HNM's only serve to stoke the egos of elitists and promote cheating and drama, and I for one hope they do not implement any more of them. I would prefer to see more HNM's that required tactical fights with some difficulty that could be popped as required.

[Tempo]

I might be the only one but i want some hnms back at 99.

[Dazusu]

I might be the only one but i want some hnms back at 99.

I agree. I would love to see HNMs back at 99.

Make them spawn in a random zone from a selected region in the original zones so they can't be botted.

[Natenn]

That guy is right, there are two sides to this: The people who wan't everything handed to them and the people who want to play a game that has an actual challenge. HNM made the game exciting, if you like doing things where theres no competition or difficulty to it go play a game like My little pony or w/e. People running around in full Perle aren't endgame. I busted my butt getting all my kings gear/D ring/$ from SW and DI drops. Now all i see is quitters crying not to make new HNM with long windows because they were bad at claiming, so many ppl quit this game because HNM died out giving the competitive ppl nothing left to do, i know 5 ppl off the top of my head who would be back if HNM came back. I liked camping cause having the drops not many ppl had meant something. With abyssea things like Twilight gear are more common so theirs no prestige to them or those titles. I want things to be hard, not the easy boring stuff that abyssea has brought.
And i know ppl botted because enemy were on DS daily Purr

[Ragmar]

That guy is right, there are two sides to this: The people who wan't everything handed to them and the people who want to play a game that has an actual challenge. HNM made the game exciting, if you like doing things where theres no competition or difficulty to it go play a game like My little pony or w/e. People running around in full Perle aren't endgame. I busted my butt getting all my kings gear/D ring/$ from SW and DI drops. Now all i see is quitters crying not to make new HNM with long windows because they were bad at claiming, so many ppl quit this game because HNM died out giving the competitive ppl nothing left to do, i know 5 ppl off the top of my head who would be back if HNM came back. I liked camping cause having the drops not many ppl had meant something. With abyssea things like Twilight gear are more common so theirs no prestige to them or those titles. I want things to be hard, not the easy boring stuff that abyssea has brought.
And i know ppl botted because enemy were on DS daily Purr

Whats funny is you keep talking like HNM had some level of challenge. THE ONLY CHALLENGE HNM EVER PRESENTED WAS CLAIMING AGAINST BOTS. If you found any other aspect of HNMs a challenge then I feel bad for you. KA, Argus, VE, LL, Hoo Mjuu the Torrent just to name a few all had the same level of challenge during the RMT/bot glory days. You had a nice run. SE let you rape your fellow players for a number of years without consequence.

You're not asking for any kind of challenge you're asking SE to keep in place a system that rewards cheaters far above anyone else. You say others who dont like world spawn bot competition should go play something else but its your crowd that couldnt handle FFXI the way it was designed. You had to break the rules to get ahead because you lacked the ability to do so otherwise or at the very least the integrity to do so without cheating. You're asking for the dev team to help you feel better about yourself through continued content that rewards only those who refuse to abide by the ToS. ??? is your new notorious monster buddy. Don't like it? QQ quit.

[Sasukeuchiha]

Hnms are stupis 24 hour pop nms need to be done away with all together. It just promots more botting and less fairness the hole system was stupid from the get go in my oppinion.

[Alhanelem]

That guy is right, there are two sides to this: The people who wan't everything handed to them and the people who want to play a game that has an actual challenge. HNM made the game exciting, if you like doing things where theres no competition or difficulty

I'm sorry, but HNMs are not a challenge. Frustration and challenge are not the same thing, and there are challenges that aren't HNMs (and challenges that are big strong mobs, but you have control over when you fight them.

When you're in an HNM group, you always have to be prepared that at any moment, your plans for the day could be ruined because you're needed to help claim (not even help kill, really, just help claim) an HNM. So you go there. And you wait. And wait, and wait. That's what's really not fun, the waiting. You could be doing something more productive and/or fun with your time.

Plain and simple: 24hr and multi-day pops with half hour pop windows suck. Challenging NMs you pop when you want after collecting items needed to do so = much better.

People who don't like HNMs aren't asking for everything to be handed to them. They're simply looking for fun and challenge without the frustration aspect that HNMs have. We're playing a game. Games are supposed to be fun.

[Catsby]

It would be fun to see all the old HNMs at 100+ but the world spawn garbage has to go. Having a quest chain or something in order to get the trigger in each starter city would be awesome. Showing off how great you are to other LS is as simple as leader boards not bots.

[Natenn]

Thats my choice and what i chose to do. As many other ppl did, like i said: if you want easy content stay in abyssea. There will be new HNM, either 24hr+ pops or hard enough most ppl can't kill anyway. 21-24hr pops were nothing. Id be elated to do it again. every FF had HNM at endgame 7: The weapons. 8: Omega. 9: Ozma 10: The big thing in calm lands arena. 11: ??? 12: Dragon in Collaseum that takes hours to kill. 13: Titan trials. Trend dictates there will be a new hard HNM in 11. Hope it pops once a week in any zone.