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    Player kaht's Avatar
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    The troll <=> no-token correlation is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

    As long as you're logging in with your S/E account and password, there is no question about who you are. You, and the character you play will be held accountable for any breach of conduct that you display on these forums. As was said above, the existence or non-existence of a token has 0% bearing on this fact.

    Please, get rid of the token login requirement.
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    Player bramble's Avatar
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    I too feel the security token for forum log-in is unnessecary and has no bearing on trolling what-so-ever! If people wanna troll, they' gonna troll, regardless of having a security token or not. I would also like the option to change user name as i stupidly got confused and thought this was the FFXIV forum >_> --my bad, i know but it would still be nice to use my XI character name, rather than my XIV character name.
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    Player Gunit's Avatar
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    I don't think you know what a troll is.
    Because a token has nothing to do with it.
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    Last edited by Gunit; 03-10-2011 at 06:49 PM.

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    Player tia's Avatar
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    what r u talking about everyone that i know has the thing on there keys i always have it i can log in here or anywhere with my laptop so i take it everywhere

    FFXIV is the same way on both game and forum sites all SE sites use the one time password to log in

    its not a big deal
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    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Having the forum use the exact same login as the game is in itself a security risk. Everyone without the token is made that much more vulnerable by it.
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    With the exception, though, that the token changes numbers, I believe, every 30 seconds, reducing said risk, GV.
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    Player GlobalVariable's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starcade View Post
    With the exception, though, that the token changes numbers, I believe, every 30 seconds, reducing said risk, GV.
    Quote Originally Posted by GlobalVariable View Post
    Having the forum use the exact same login as the game is in itself a security risk. Everyone without the token is made that much more vulnerable by it.
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    Player Claquesous's Avatar
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    Now that I'm home, I can finally respond to this thread. Yes yes yes! Change this now!!!

    Arguing that a concern over one's security makes someone less likely to show a modicum of restraint is about the least logical argument I've ever heard. It was also the most pathetic display of "anti-trolling" trolling I've ever seen.

    Also, encouraging people to type in sensitive login information on untrusted machines is about the biggest security risk imaginable. I would never EVER login to my SE account from a public computer. However, I would be glad to use my normal forum password from anywhere.

    I was pleasantly surprised that I needed my one time password to register. This is an excellent anti-spam defense. However, I was shocked when I found out I needed my one time password to login every time. For my money, this renders the forum virtually useless.
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    Player HFX7686's Avatar
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    Meare
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    I don't take my token with me when I go to work or on holiday. I do take my laptop and read forums.

    I would like to be able to sign in from multiple machines without having to use my token.

    I don't want to deactivate my token off my FF11 accounts just to be able to do this.

    Please change it.
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    Player Byrth's Avatar
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    Currently I'm on holiday. I wouldn't be able to post this if I hadn't unlinked my security token. Haven't really missed it.

    They're covering themselves and making it harder to get angry at them, because once you put a security token on an account you've accepted personal responsibility for its security, while before (when we lacked the ability to keep our accounts secure) it was ambiguous. By making you go through the same security before you post (and potentially endanger your account), they insure we don't yell at them as much when we get banned.

    I deactivated it. My account is less secure, but it's a lot easier to log in. Cost/Benefit. FFXI accounts aren't worth anything anymore and there's no market for them. Pirating accounts is more trouble than it's worth.

    The real security issue is saving your password to this site with a deactivated security token. The SE account password/etc info must be stored in a cookie somewhere, and your character account password is stored in your insecure POL files. Anyone with access to your computer (via malware) would have both halves of the code and be able to log in without even using a keylogger.
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