[dev1009] New Trigger Conditions for Notorious Monsters really?

[RAIST]

If they had left the BB item drops alone on the NQ/HQ NM's, this would be a non issue--you would have 2 x ~5% chance to get them, one from the KSNM fight(in which you are guaranteed a NQ NM pop item), then one from the NQ NM. Then you would be able to get it from the HQ NM fight IF you get the HQ pop item off the NQ fight.

As they built it now, you can do the KSNM fight, not get a BB item but the pop item, do the NQ NM pop fight, get no BB item AND get NO HQ NM POP--and have to rinse/repeat. If you are unlucky enough to still not get the BB item from the KSNM, you do the NQ and again NOT get the HQ pop item---repeat AGAIN. You finally get to the HQ NM pop because your having crappy luck getting it from the KSNM and CAN'T get it from the NQ NM--and guess what, it's not a 100% drop anymore and you have to do it all AGAIN.

It has the potential to be the same as (or worse) than just spamming the freaking KSNM fights. They should have just left the drop rates alone on the NQ/HQ NM's.

[Shymithra]

Ok let me restate that I don't like the old system or new system think they are both crappy. But rather then changing the old system completely they could have made it better. Ok KSNM99s might not need alot of people if the people you got know what the heck they are doing... You can die on the simplest of things if your team work blows and we all know alot of people since level sync and now abyssea have no clue of what their jobs can and can't do cause they flew thru the levels. KSNMs and Kings still take abit of skill to defeat SE thinks so to otherwise they would have made the mobs harder. The making it more casual I understand that I just think they went about it wrong like I said earlier drasticly shortering the respawn times or adding mobs to the area that drop pop items would have been alot better imo.

[Registeel]

adding mobs to the area that drop pop items would have been alot better imo.

That would be extremely ideal, but Lord knows something like that would never happen, unfortunately.

[Shymithra]

Oh well maybe after the update is done and people go thru it first hand and complain about it they will change it lol. Well thats a big if thou it might actually be good the drop rates might be decent (going by SEs past of making things overly hard I doubt it). Just reading about it thou it feels like one of their worst ideas.

[Shymithra]

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You have no Idea how I play so don't troll its your opinion thats better nothing more. My friends are skilled players but we arent in same time zones or linkshells so getting them to join me all at once is a chore cause they are either busy or not online. So don't mouth off at what you have no clue about. The only clueless on is here is you. Ive fought everyone of those Kings and the KSNMs I have my Blackbelt so i know exactly what I'm doing when it comes to fighting them. No they aren't hard if you know what you are doing but if you don't you will die and quickly at that.

[Registeel]

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I don't think anyone so far has shown worry/despair over actual fight difficulties; rather, the luck aspects in regards to pop item/desired reward item drops. It is troubling that a bad turn of luck can turn into seals wasted, but again it's personal opinion on how one feels about working for a chance at getting the good stuff.

[TybudX]

You're in an LS that can't get 1-4 people together at the same time?

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[Daremo]

I don't know about you, but I could easily bring a smn, a bst, a whm, and a mnk to kill the KSNM Wyrm... What?

[Shymithra]

You're in an LS that can't get 1-4 people together at the same time?

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My Ls has died out pretty much they were waiting for this merger to start back up with another ls but info on if we really are is well vague at best. The other ls I join was the same active till we got closer to merger then sorta died out. Truthfully i doubt if i asked that I would get anyone Intrested enless it benefited them in some way. Yea it sucks lol I'm always willing to help people but getting help in return is another matter.

[SNK]

You have no Idea how I play so don't troll its your opinion thats better nothing more.

I know you obviously didn't camp kings for as long as a lot of people have that actually bitched to SE about this years ago to make these NMs force pops instead of fighting other linkshells for claim.

I lived in DA, VoS, and BD for a long time before I even got close to the gear I wanted. New system is better.