ranger needs a new 2hr

[Alkalinehoe]

How do you see that as being a good idea? My arrows hit from like 200-600 dmg, times that by 99 and make it hate free. You think that's a reasonable two hour ability? Are you stoned?

Used in Abyssea. Let's say 600 dmg a shot. That's roughly 60k dmg. HATE FREE. Oh, I have a Revit, 120k dmg in a couple of seconds hate free.

Ya, nothing wrong with that.

Outside of Abyssea, let's say 400 dmg a shot. That's roughly 40k dmg, again, hate free. Oh, I have a Cor with me. 80k Dmg right there. Yep, not broken.

Man, why hasn't SE added this completely legit idea.

Cause you know, our current 2hr which deals 1/10 of a WAR's average non-2hr'd WS in abyssea is so totally not broken. Hey look, I can use sarcasm too.

Obviously there would be a need for adjustments, say an acc cap, aftermaths not affecting it, etc. Or even changing all of your current ammunition to 1/4, so the max possible is 25 in one shot. And besides, if you were a competent RNG you would be capping hate quickly via WS anyways. RNGs are DDs that have been strongly focused on spike damage much of the time (except for Holy Bolt builds which have become obsolete now).

[Mirabelle]

How do you see that as being a good idea? My arrows hit from like 200-600 dmg, times that by 99 and make it hate free. You think that's a reasonable two hour ability? Are you stoned?

If you worked it like barrage and didn't allow crits into the equation, your chance at hitting full 99 would be 0.6%. Most of the time you'd hit for 10k or less. Maybe a bit broken but compared to what a DRK zerg used to do, not so insane.

[FANCY60]

its was an opinion please stop attacking an idea good or bad. if you dont like it, fine come up with yours and stop the hate please grow up

How do you see that as being a good idea? My arrows hit from like 200-600 dmg, times that by 99 and make it hate free. You think that's a reasonable two hour ability? Are you stoned?

Used in Abyssea. Let's say 600 dmg a shot. That's roughly 60k dmg. HATE FREE. Oh, I have a Revit, 120k dmg in a couple of seconds hate free.

Ya, nothing wrong with that.

Outside of Abyssea, let's say 400 dmg a shot. That's roughly 40k dmg, again, hate free. Oh, I have a Cor with me. 80k Dmg right there. Yep, not broken.

Man, why hasn't SE added this completely legit idea.

[mike328947]

what SE really need to do? they need to change 2hr to 1hr ability instead.

[Mirabelle]

May as well just give them a 2 hour that shoots a "death" arrow that won't be broken at all, nope.

I've seen SMN do some pretty insane crap with Odin and no one calls them broken. I've heard of some pretty insan damage from Jishnu's rdiance and Wildfire and no one says thats broken. A 0.6% chance every two hours of 30k damage is hardly broken. But I'm not demanding such a change i just happen to think it would be fun because of the random nature of it. But I'm a COR at heart so randomness is my life lol.

[Economizer]

Now, I'm basing my numbers on what other people are saying, so if 20-30k isn't the damage that could be done with it, shoot them in the foot, not me.

With NMs having higher HP 20-30k isn't that broken. Especially for a 2hr ability.

Ranger parties say hi. SE didn't want a party of Scholars to be able to instantly kill Absolute Virtue which has somewhere south of 70k HP if I'm not mistaken, so why would Ranger be any different? Granted, Rangers would need to use their two hours, but four-six Rangers shooting at the same time could easily kill most mobs if they could do 20-30k damage.

I think Shinryu has somewhere south of 70k HP too, which would mean you could do Shinyru without a brew by getting a Monk/White Mage pair to proc Blue and four Rangers to instakill Shinryu before he could start to absorb damage.

Edit: This could even be considered balanced by some definition probably, but I just want to make sure it is clear how powerful this could be. I'm not saying Ranger should or should not get this as a two hour, just stating some numbers.

[FANCY60]

that was nice lol but too powerful what about this FREE RANGE ^^
description will be for 30sec you can fire with out consuming ammo and increases rate of crit hits for the duration

I liked my idea for the new 2hrs thread.

Blackout - Fires every single arrow in your ammo slot at one opponent. Enmity is reset for the RNG.

[Fyreus]

Quad damage with no level correction please! If not, 100% recycle with berserk so my cp (hope this gets an update) arrow can go to work

[Dart]

jesus just unnerf rng already so the emo stops

[Mirage]

Wouldn't it be enough to just update EES to not becoming inferior to other WSes as the ranger levels up?

Also, maybe it should have 100% (or 99%) accuracy? Most other two-hours won't be wasted if one of your attacks misses. It seems unfair that ranger's two hour, which is a single, high damage shot, is still subject to the same accuracy cap as any of their other attacks

Alternatively, give it more hits as the ranger levels up. This could be part of "make it stronger than other WSes" I mentioned earlier. More hits will reduce the chances of a complete miss significantly.

Considering that ranger is obviously meant to be a damage dealer, and other DDs can now deal over 5000 damage per WS in abyssea, it wouldn't be unfair if EES could deal upwards of 7-8000 damage in there. I don't even have Ukko's on my war, but my RRs still occasionally reach 5000 damage. Why shouldn't rng be able to do more than that with their 2hour?