Dynamic Gameplay Discussed

[Kimiko]

Problem is, eventually every fight will be dissected and broken down to a near 100% win strategy similar to point A. Really the only way to ensure a challenging fight is random elements that cannot be neatly broken down or catagorized. For example, Proto-Ultima during it's multiple stages (especially with random screens), Vrtra, and so forth.

[Runespider]

It's sad really, they added loads of difficult and fun mobs in Abyssea and then added overpowered atmas and brews that made the work pointless. Every mob in Aby should just be a colored blob with no tp moves, considering they ****** all over then with the overpowered player buffs.

If they had added many of the aby mobs outside of Abyssea they would be some of the hardest fights in the game. Rani alone is close to AV quality (try it with no atmas and curor buffs, let alone a brew).

[Leonlionheart]

It's sad really, they added loads of difficult and fun mobs in Abyssea and then added overpowered atmas and brews that made the work pointless. Every mob in Aby should just be a colored blob with no tp moves, considering they ****** all over then with the overpowered player buffs.

If they had added many of the aby mobs outside of Abyssea they would be some of the hardest fights in the game. Rani alone is close to AV quality (try it with no atmas and curor buffs, let alone a brew).

You realize that without cruor buffs Meteor would one shot EVERYONE outside of aby no matter what, right? "Close to AV quality" It would be literally impossible since Meteor is a 25' range spell and deals upwards of 3.5k damage. Hume MNK 8/8 HP merits has around 1800 HP outside of aby depending on gear, with 50% MDT (Capped) you'd still die. AV is beatable, Rani wouldn't be without cruor/atma/72 mules or mindless LS followers that do the leader's bidding.

Other than Refresh atma, there's nothing that really makes Atma the reason that abyssea mobs are easy. The mobs are easy because they are easy.

If SE wanted to make them hard, all they'd have to do is up the HP and the damage output so that any DD couldn't tank. Not necessarily take away atma.

Of course take away refresh atma and everyone just needs a BRD and a RDM again, so it's not that big of a deal.

Take all of that stuff away and we would probably resort to the tried and true method of 2PLD/NIN some refreshers, some healers, some nukers, and then DD/THF SATAing onto the PLDs. It wouldn't make the content hard, it'd just make it really long and boring. (Never found /THF fun imo)

[TybudX]

I like how the OP suggests SE introduce more content with CoP (storyline) type battles. I am all for more CoP level stuff. Lets put big neon signs on all the players without certain mission rewards that say "I'm not smart enough to die where we zoned in".

[Leonlionheart]

I like how the OP suggests SE introduce more content with CoP (storyline) type battles. I am all for more CoP level stuff. Lets put big neon signs on all the players without certain mission rewards that say "I'm not smart enough to die where we zoned in".

If this is sarcasm, you made me lol.

If not then you made me sadface.