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    Player Nephilipitou's Avatar
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    The biggest problem is that people are buying the crystals at such a huge price. I've seen fire crystals go from 800-1200 at stack to see them get to 2000-3000 a stack and there were like 30-40 up at one time. That's not a supply issue right there. I've seen fire crystals sell for 200 a stack with there being only 200-300. I used to buy light crystals for 1k a stack.

    The problem with the high crystal prices is not Abyssea. If you're able to get into Abyssea, Cruor is far more profitable NPCing than crafting is unless you're HQing stuff you bought for cheap.

    If the prices are too high then NPC 1 piece of Teal, Aurore, or Perle gear and buy 1-4 stacks of crystals depending on your server, prices, etcetera. I have 400k gil so if I put the time and effort to go back and forth I could turn that into anywhere from 1-2 mil.

    If your'e doing the Dominion Ops then you'll make even more cruor, and you'll make Dominion Ops which is like 150k = 700k

    at 480 dominion Ops and like 1200 cruor per 5 kills, you end up with 240 cruor per kill at least, and like 100 dominion ops per kill.

    you're basically making 560 gil per kill based off of Cruor-Gil exchange rate estimate of 3000 Cruor being 7k gil on average. You're then making another 466 gil per kill off of Dominion Ops for the same ratio. So by meriting jobs for the hell of it you can literally make 1k per kill at absolute highest efficiency I can calculate for. Even if you're only doing half of that, you're still much more likely to make more gil than farming anything else I can think of and that's a per person rate.

    Or you could go and do BCNMs and make 500k-1mil on a good day per run you do.

    But at the end of the day the ones that have the biggest right to complain are the people leveling BLM and scholar and want Tier IVs for procing lights because if we don't have them we can't proc as often as we should, and it costs 1 mil to get all the tier IVs. Which I'm going to bite the bullet and buy. And farming them is not easy at all otherwise I would have done it by now but it requires high level NMs one of which I've already killed half a dozen times for testimonies, and the drop rate just isn't that good.

    Plus we also have those elemental staves to buy which is another mil if you get all the HQs. Unless you spend a ton of time farming you're spending millions just to get your seals to drop more frequently. So... ya... um... sorry if I find it hard to sympathize with you about the whole crystals being over priced thing. It helps the lower level players, and higher level players can afford it. We don't need crystals to drop simultaneously with everything else. We're already making like 1k gil per kill if done correctly and killing multiple times per minute. That doesn't even include Cruor chests.
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    I would love to see crystals drop in abyssea but I think I'm in the minority on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoshi View Post
    I would love to see crystals drop in abyssea but I think I'm in the minority on that.
    This is a classic example of someone just burning through the game and not playing the "story" of the game. Go back and do some missions

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrtia View Post
    If anyone actually paid attention to the storyline of Abyssea, in that world the Mother crystal is no longer shattered and the crystal lines are receding. All of the crystal shards have been retracted back into one mass (or in the process of). I wouldn't expect crystals to be in Abyssea.
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    Hey everyone. I'm new to this game. When I find a crystal I just use it. I play on Cerebrus crystals cost 5K for 12. I am not that rich in the game to afford those just to up my clothcraft. So I just use one if I find one. I have my storage full of yagundo (sp) necklaces. I just wish I knew how to farm more of the crystals. I don't mind farming. I like it - it's part of the RPG experience. It makes you feel good when you build something nice out of all your invested time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamer View Post
    Hey everyone. I'm new to this game. When I find a crystal I just use it. I play on Cerebrus crystals cost 5K for 12. I am not that rich in the game to afford those just to up my clothcraft. So I just use one if I find one. I have my storage full of yagundo (sp) necklaces. I just wish I knew how to farm more of the crystals. I don't mind farming. I like it - it's part of the RPG experience. It makes you feel good when you build something nice out of all your invested time.
    I understand what you mean, this is a good site to you for your crafting recipes and to find the location of the elementals you will need to get crystal cluster's. http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Main_Page If you need to crystals best to farm the elemental's, but they only appaer if the area has the weather effect.
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    Player JagerForrester's Avatar
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    I've have made plenty of gil from being in Abyssea from the normal drops and cruor, and you're worried about crystals? If AH is in low supply, take some time to go get some from elementals in the areas they are located in. If you have access to sky, that would be the best place to farm. May need to bring a friend along if you can't handle them yourself.
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    Player Nephilipitou's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by JagerForrester View Post
    I've have made plenty of gil from being in Abyssea from the normal drops and cruor, and you're worried about crystals? If AH is in low supply, take some time to go get some from elementals in the areas they are located in. If you have access to sky, that would be the best place to farm. May need to bring a friend along if you can't handle them yourself.
    Also when you join a party ask if you can lot the crystals to craft. Sometimes you'll get an entire party that just doesn't care about crystals and before you know it you have your inventory full cause you've been lotting on 4 crystals a kill.
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    Player AJ_Anyia's Avatar
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    What everyone else said, farm elementals. No one really does anymore, they're freakin everywhere.
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    Player JagerForrester's Avatar
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    I did read the posts before I submitted my last post. Hope you did too, and not just the last page.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyrtia View Post
    If anyone actually paid attention to the storyline of Abyssea, in that world the Mother crystal is no longer shattered and the crystal lines are receding. All of the crystal shards have been retracted back into one mass (or in the process of). I wouldn't expect crystals to be in Abyssea.
    Therefore if they don't add crystals to Abyssea as you wish, I guess you could wish more crystals elsewhere or... you know... beat up an elemental.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JagerForrester View Post
    I did read the posts before I submitted my last post. Hope you did too, and not just the last page.

    Therefore if they don't add crystals to Abyssea as you wish, I guess you could wish more crystals elsewhere or... you know... beat up an elemental.
    Ok.. for those not reading all the comments before posting, and those still simply saying go farm eles, or use abys to earn gill to buy them.. i refere you to post #18


    Quote Originally Posted by Godofgods View Post
    I never said it was impossible to afford it. But rather the supply was maasively limited now. (prices are jsut a side effect of that) With only new ppl and a few older ppl doing subs, very few are reaching the AH. Not to mention the idiots who feel the price of crystals 'arnt worth their time' to put up on the AH. (hate them ppl)

    While yes, cryatls can be specficly farmed form pts or ele's, the time involed can be illogical. Farming one or two stacks for crafting is one thing. But usaly when i craft, its across two days, and i run though a good 50 or so stacks of crystals. The time it would take to try and farm that many crystals independently would take longer then the entire crafting prossess. Their for not a loggical thing to do. So i buy off the AH, naturaly. And i have no problem paying a decent price to those that did collect them from their parties and put them on AH. However supply is still a problem irregaurdless. Their have been times I search every AH and they all had 2~5 stacks left, or flat out.. out of them entirly. For server wide thats a bit of an issue. And im jsut one person that cant get enough crystals. Their many other ppl on these servers that might need them as well. So i feel supply needs to be looked at. If not in abyssea then maybe up the amount that drop from normal mobs outside a fair bit. Something...
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