New Enfeebles

[Supersun]

hi2u Impact. It's -20% attributes, and this is way more than 10 levels.

No amount of attribute reduction can affect level correction

[Carth]

hi2u Impact. It's -20% attributes, and this is way more than 10 levels.

Dropping levels does more than lower attributes, by far.

[Protey]

this is true, but think of it like this... it's like Ulhuadshi when he steals your buffs, he hits significantly harder even though there has been no level change; now 20% isn't going to be as big of a swing as it is with Ulhuadshi, but it should still be big enough to see significant damage increase by your DDs. Imagine AV or PW getting hit with Impact (if they aren't immune, anyone ever try?)

[Supersun]

this is true, but think of it like this... it's like Ulhuadshi when he steals your buffs, he hits significantly harder even though there has been no level change; now 20% isn't going to be as big of a swing as it is with Ulhuadshi, but it should still be big enough to see significant damage increase by your DDs. Imagine AV or PW getting hit with Impact (if they aren't immune, anyone ever try?)

Monster's formulas != Player formulas

Fact is that Impact is barely going to affect your heavy DDs since they should already have their weapon rank (Str-Vit) capped, at least inside abyssea, and WS mods only depend on the users stats.

Reducing the monsters levels on the other hand will actually increase the damage cap that DDs can do to a mob. Want a good example? Go attack an IT--, then go attack an EM--. Even if you have capped attack on both you will do a crap ton more to the EM just because there isn't level correction reducing your damage.

[Thizzerio]

No, kill RDM being the Enfeebling job, it's dumb. 90% of mobs resist them, and we have no spells that are our own except merits, WHM will be getting ADDLE soon.

i am a 100% complete rdm, 100% complete abyssea, all atmas to choose from, and im telling you right now, that everything in abyssea unless specifically immune to para, or specifically immune to earth,ice, or otherwise outlined, can, for a fact be enfeebled, gtfo the rdm forums unless you know whats up. choose your atma wisely, gear correctly, and research a mob, before you try to enfeeble it with full af3+2 maybe throwing on a af1 body, and automatically assuming its immune,

[Daniel_Hatcher]

as well as adding more enfebling skills like Paralyze III or some as sugjested , as well as Enlight/Endark to our Enspells much sooner than pld or dark...

Wasn't their argument that Endark and Enlight are not elemental types which is why RDM never got them as RDM's enchant their swords with elemental magic.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

i am a 100% complete rdm, 100% complete abyssea, all atmas to choose from, and im telling you right now, that everything in abyssea unless specifically immune to para, or specifically immune to earth,ice, or otherwise outlined, can, for a fact be enfeebled, gtfo the rdm forums unless you know whats up. choose your atma wisely, gear correctly, and research a mob, before you try to enfeeble it with full af3+2 maybe throwing on a af1 body, and automatically assuming its immune,

Atma of the Ultimate and Kirin isn't Magic Accuracy, who knew!?

What an idiot.

[Bigboy]

No, kill RDM being the Enfeebling job, it's dumb. 90% of mobs resist them, and we have no spells that are our own except merits, WHM will be getting ADDLE soon.

You are wrong. I can't even begin to understand what possessed you to think something so foolish. This is a FFXI forum. Is there some other game you've been playing where these things are true?

Maybe you just leeched your RDM up to 90 and have like 20 enfeebling skill or something. I don't know where your disconnect from reality stems from.

[Daniel_Hatcher]

You are wrong. I can't even begin to understand what possessed you to think something so foolish. This is a FFXI forum. Is there some other game you've been playing where these things are true?

Maybe you just leeched your RDM up to 90 and have like 20 enfeebling skill or something. I don't know where your disconnect from reality stems from.

Read the rest of the posts, or don't reply....

I'm capped, good enfeebling magic skill gear and magic accuracy so your point is INVALID.

[Supersun]

Not to mention that even if our enfeebles stick they don't actually do anything significant since they don't do **** to hinder the monsters TP attacks and all you are really doing if causing the Mnks to counter less.