Pet Shop

[Yopop]

Ahmen to this

I farm my own pet food mats and my own jug mats and it takes me a couple hours if that, and that's if I go overboard and farm several stacks.

I keep 1 inventory open for just pet supplies ( just a tip thrown out there ) because I solo so much that I can blow through stuff quickly

leveling your cooking to 60 is very easy so anyone can do it and it can be done in no time. Almost every craft from 1-60 to skill up on is found in an NPC so the OP would love that

Another note i want to include from "Gotterdammerung"

you state "i can instead solo 4-5 zone bosses for mercenary work and make enough gil to support my pet supplies for the next few months".....

Umm.. Why are you complaining again?

The thing is there's true bsts and people who play bst because now a days it's a joke to level.

True bsts can usually tell you what mobs have what type of traits, what drops what types of mats and a lot but not all skill up cooking because we be darned if we are going to blow through stacks of gil for consumable items.

I'd be in billions if I bought all my food from the AH

Um.. yeah. I'd just like to add the fact that I can farm up -everything- (harvesting included) for all the pets/food I use, and have it all crafted in under 3 hours, and have said items for several days, or even weeks to come. Coming from a long time RNG, NIN, and BST main, if that's too costly or time intensive for you, sorry. You picked the wrong job. Just sayin'.

[Gotterdammerung]

@Yopop We are talking about this because i have the ability to assess a situation and think outside my own needs. As ive tried to explain for like 3 pages, Just because its not a problem for me doesnt mean its not a problem. Ive played beast forever im not a bandwagoneer new bst. I run my own petshell and am surrounded by beastmasters and cooks. Its good to be king. Its good to be rich. But that doesnt mean i cant think of how it would be for other people. A Job ability is the basic building blocks that define a class, I believe in a more reliable source for its consumables. Especially when those consumables are provided by npcs for other classes.

@guardian its not too costly or time intensive. It is LESS money. in ur 3 hours i can finish most if not all of a piece of someones AF+2 and have enough gil for MONTHS not WEEKS.

@chicken food is a consumable, but it is not a consumable that fuels a job ability. My OP was in regards to the unfairness that some jobs have the JA fuel sold on an NPC and BST does not have this.

[Luvbunny]

Pet shop is fantastic idea, one NPC that sells every kind of items that BST needed conveniently located in all 4 major cities.

[Superchicken]

@Yopop We are talking about this because i have the ability to assess a situation and think outside my own needs. As ive tried to explain for like 3 pages, Just because its not a problem for me doesnt mean its not a problem. Ive played beast forever im not a bandwagoneer new bst. I run my own petshell and am surrounded by beastmasters and cooks. Its good to be king. Its good to be rich. But that doesnt mean i cant think of how it would be for other people. A Job ability is the basic building blocks that define a class, I believe in a more reliable source for its consumables. Especially when those consumables are provided by npcs for other classes.

@guardian its not too costly or time intensive. It is LESS money. in ur 3 hours i can finish most if not all of a piece of someones AF+2 and have enough gil for MONTHS not WEEKS.

@chicken food is a consumable, but it is not a consumable that fuels a job ability. My OP was in regards to the unfairness that some jobs have the JA fuel sold on an NPC and BST does not have this.

So now you are changing your original statement to that you just want pet food sold from the NPC like oil is sold for pups. You need to figure out what you are asking for now. Is it jugs and food, or just pet food now?

Just cause one job can get their reward item from an NPC doesn't mean another should. And lets go even further and i'll throw this out there. AUtomaton oil +2 doesn't cure for as much as pet food eta biscuit does, so is that unfair to the PUPS?

And you saying your only talking about items that are consumed through a job ability doesn't matter at all. My argument with using food in general still holds the same point you are making.

My weaponskill on Ranger takes 3 arrows per use, my barrage takes 8 arrows per use when they all land, my shadowbind etc, my ability to use range attack as my main source of damage takes arrows everytime i use it. My ah can't keep me stocked up on my arrows i want to use, so i should ask SE to have NPC sell ruszor and antlion arrows? or should i go do somethign about it whether its farm my own mats, find crafters to take care of me, level the craft myself. Yes asking SE to make what i want come from an NPC is the easy way but not always the most plausible.

let me draw your attention to this

@Yopop We are talking about this because i have the ability to assess a situation and think outside my own needs. As ive tried to explain for like 3 pages, Just because its not a problem for me doesnt mean its not a problem. Ive played beast forever im not a bandwagoneer new bst. I run my own petshell and am surrounded by beastmasters and cooks. Its good to be king. Its good to be rich. But that doesnt mean i cant think of how it would be for other people. A Job ability is the basic building blocks that define a class, I believe in a more reliable source for its consumables. Especially when those consumables are provided by npcs for other classes.

so now you are changing your story that you are not posting this for yourself but for others now. You keep changing your story bro. Reread your original post

[Gotterdammerung]

I'm done arguing. This threads has turned childish and circular. Everythings been covered and ive replied to every counterpoint. I doubt you have anything new to add so re read if u want to find replies to the old points u keep bringing back up. I am not gonna waste my time anymore playing a childish game of "who gets the last word."

I brought this problem to the attention of the Devs, and successfully explained all my points. That's all i wanted to do and its done so im done.

[Superchicken]

I'm done arguing. This threads has turned childish and circular. Everythings been covered and ive replied to every counterpoint. I doubt you have anything new to add so re read if u want to find replies to the old points u keep bringing back up. I am not gonna waste my time anymore playing a childish game of "who gets the last word."

I brought this problem to the attention of the Devs, and successfully explained all my points. That's all i wanted to do and its done so im done.

yes its endless circle because you don't seem to realize you are asking SE to provide a means to help your situation that can already be solved by other means, and fail to see that while it may help you in what you want it to do it takes away from others in the process. Its a matter that would result in someone wins someone looses where if you leave it how it is, no one looses anything because "your problem" is already solveable with the current state of the game but you don't like those means so you are asking SE to tailor the game to help you, but you don't care about what it will do to others. Your request stems from the state of your AH on your server, but remember this is not the case on all the other servers and if SE implemented your suggestion it would be game wide not just on your server. An auction house function in MMO is run by the players. Economy in MMOs are run by the players. When you start taking aspects of the game away that involve the players the game becomes less and less of an MMO. Sure your talking about a small aspect of certain items like supplies that BST uses in conjunction with JA's, but this just opens up more and more doors for people to make more suggestions to what they call a problem that really isn't a problem at all. Yes its probably very frustrating to go to the ah to buy your supplies to see none there, but we have all experienced this. The adding of an shop or npc is not the best solution imo when the issue at hand is solveable through the game already. In essence you're asking for something to make it more convenient for you or a handful of people and not thinking about effect of this to others. It's selfish in a way because you are not wanting to take means to solve the problem you are having into your own hands in game but instead asking SE to implement to make it more convenient. I'm afraid your proposely to the dev team will most likely not go any further than that and I think others who can see the matter at stake here and what you are truely asking SE to do would agree. But if you do get your pet shop grats to you, will i loose sleep over it, no, will it affect in terms to where i can no longer play the game, no, do i think this idea is a little over the top, yes. But good luck i'm interested in seeing how it plays out and if a pet shop sees its way into the game.

Long live the beastmaster (it is one of my favorite jobs as well)

[SNK]

@SNK If all you see is "bitching about the prices of jugs on the AH" then you obviously havent read my posts. Stop skim reading and skipping pages and actually get caught up on the conversation before you post. Maybe then you can at least make an attempt at accuracy when you choose to slander.

Hadn't bothered to read here since I figured you'd gotten the point but hey let's see if I can make some more sense to you. I myself do have multiple jobs @ 90 inculding THF with Armlets & AF3+2 Shoes. I busted my ass to get those desired pieces of gear even tho I think the Armlets were way worse in terms of aquiring them. However I have and always consider BST one of the jobs I enjoy a lot. For fuck's sake I love job so much that I even own a fucking Farsha.

I leveled it to 75 waaaay before Abyessa came out so yeah I suffered thru the hardships of level 1 to 35 without leave. I suffered with finding good camps and bad camps to exp at where sometimes it was fast *hi2 you Woodlands with Red Kissers vs Colibri* vs bad camps *Garliage with an overflux of JPs farming bombs* and I've learned one thing. The only way I was going to advance at this game and this job was to support myself totally.

The AH for me was a quick refrence to some of the jug pets I liked but, I never considered it a place in where I had to get something off it in terms of that. When I knew what jug pets rocked, I made it a point to farm the shit out of the mobs which dropped the mats needed to make them and then I paid a friend who usually did it for free in cash but used my THF for stuff whenever he needed it *lol* so I always had extra stacks of jugs on hand and never worried about running out.

FFXi is a social game and sadly you don't get much of a chance to be social when you're humping the AH for jug pets/armor/w/e but, if you're that hardup for thinking you paying too much, stop your god damn bitching, unlazy yourself and contact the seller and ask them if they'd be willing to haggle.

nine times out of ten most crafters will sell for less sometimes to a person who's willing to buy direct from them because it saves them AF fees and helps them unload inventory on their characters to do more crafting. Hell with me and Bonecraft I had a solid stream of requests to make arrowheads and I sold them for less then AH price but I still made a tidy profit because people just threw gil at me because they knew I was doing them a service.

The same thing applies to the AH. It's people providing a service for you and that's it. You bitching about jug pets should be bought directly from NPCs just makes it look like you're wanting SE to hand you everything you want in a bag. You're being nothing more then a lazy player if you can't fend for yourself to make money in this game.

P.S. The Devs are probably busy dealing with the earthquake and death toll along with untold amount of property damage to give a shit about this stupid request.

[Dooom]

"It's not fair I can't buy these things from an NPC", you say. So imagine they make them all sold from an NPC; yay, you gain. But oh wait, that guy who was farming and crafting jugpets for profit to buy other stuff? You just destroyed their market. Is that fair?

Other jobs have this problem too. "They can buy their stuff from NPCs!". Which NPC sells Iron or Corsair Bullets? Or Antlion Arrows? And so on. Your base argument is flawed, and your conclusions are wrong.

[Guardian]

I think Gotter's way of thinking is that SE made FFXI entirely for him, so it needs to be easiest for him at all times. That's all I really got from his posts, since the "unfortunate others" that he keeps going on about aren't actually bitching on the forums. I'm so fkin sick of hearing people complaining about the game today. FFS, is anybody around since before ToAU? The "good" higher lv camps being in the tree and KRT? No FoV, enhanced xp, or even the ability to rest w/o losing TP?! GD STFU with this stupid ass complaining! AHH!!... Ok, done ranting. But seriously, this game is in easy mode now. If we want something revamped for BST, how about having the ability to make our pets focus on one mob, and not losing our pets when we zone/log out like every other pet job?

[Guardian]

Um, upon thinking about it, I can't remember if SMN keeps avatar out while zoning, though I think they do. Oh well. And even if they don't it's free (other than the low MP cost) to re-summon it. Later.