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[Karbuncle]

based on the numbers on my server, I'd make 38k...that's hardly a gouging 200% profit...that's not even enough to buy a stack of dipper yuly, if I had bst leveled

We still talking about DipperYuly?

you say "Chigoe are 200k/stack" ... "Yulies are 120k/stack". Using Synergy (There is no reason you shouldn't), Every 6 Synths (1 stack of Chigoe) you make 3 Stacks of Yuly's, which at 120kx3 is 360k

So you spend 200k, and make 360k if you sell them all, This is using Synergy, and NQ'ing them all.

If you use Cooking (which you really shouldn't) You are indeed only making 38k Profit. (40k not counting Shell Bug prices)

Take the time to level Synergy, It'll massively boost your profit if you do so synth for Profit.

[Bubeeky]

I refuse to level synergy...it's a slap in the face to crafters like myself that spend a lot of time and effort to get to where we are...I did the craft leveling thing with cooking....it's not gonna happen with synergy.

[Gotterdammerung]

well the prices of the materials are being set based on the profit potential of a synergy craft. Its ur own fault if u dont use it. And if u notice the profit margin remained relativly constant the whole time. From 40k chigoes and 50k dippers to 200k chigoes and 120k dippers ur still making around the same gil. Its the consumers getting bent over.

[Bubeeky]

no, it's the crafters getting bent over...synergy is what should be removed from the game....it ruined crafting (as other threads have said)

[Karbuncle]

I actually LIKE synergy. No Materials Lost on Failed attempts, SUPER-Easy to level up, I can do it with my GF...

But, I can understand the point of view of someone who has a 100 craft being angry at it i guess? my GF has 95 Cooking and she still using Synergy 99% of her BST needs. Usually help her my Synergy is higher.

I can't entirely comment on it though, As my Woodworking is only ~73, So i dont have a 100 Craft.

[Gotterdammerung]

synergists are crafters.

Did you mean crafters who do not synergize.

I dont see how synergy ruined crafting anyway. It is basically the same as crafting. And even uses crafting. And protects u from breaks and has higher returns. And is easy to lvl. Sounds like all win.

If your answer is : i dont like it.
Then the usual response from crafters when a noncrafter says "i dont like crafting" is
"Tough titties eediot, i guess i take ur money cuz u lazy deerrrp."

so by the same logic if u dont like synergy and thats ur reason for not doing it,
well then u must be a lazy eediot who doesnt like money.

[Bubeeky]

it's not that I don't like doing it, it's that I spent a great deal of time and effort to get my craft to 100, including losing friends that spent that same time actually leveling, then moving on to bigger and better things, leaving me behind...the trade off was supposed to be that I was investing in something that would pay off in the long run, but now they add synergy...something that you don't even need a traditional craft for, but you can make everything the traditional crafts can, easier and faster?

That has single handedly killed crafting for me....SE just took and slapped me right upside the head when they gave ppl the ability to bypass the whole investment part of the crafting process. I cannot and will not respect anyone that just uses synergy to get what they want, because it is a lame way for people to bypass the hardship of actually leveling a craft.

Synergists are not crafters...they are synergists. Only those with an actual craft leveled are crafters.

[Gotterdammerung]

I was under the impression U still needed the original craft to support the synergy.

[Karbuncle]

Thats your Opinion.

And We can't Bypass Shit, Almost every worthwhile Synth in the game Requires High Level of a Certain craft. Now instead of finding a Crafter To BLOW UP your item, Critical Fail, Lose everything, you find a crafter, Or level it yourself, Go Do Synergy, Can't Critical-BOOM, Get your item, and move on.

Its really no Different. Those of us Without Crafting still have to find a Crafter like it was in the old day, and those with Crafting can still reap the benefits.

I don't know what we're Bypassing. Those people without Skill in Crafting do the same thing they did before "XXX Crat, Can i have it? Reward /tell"

I was under the impression U still needed the original craft to support the synergy.

You do. For 99% of Synergy Recipes, You need a Certain Craft past a Certain Point. Some Require Multiple Crafts.

[Bubeeky]

But those crafts just need to be in the party, the synergist themselves don't actually need to level the craft

When ppl would ask for a crafter, they reward 'em and are using the skill that the crafter worked hard for...that we broke materials and friendships and took the time to invest in. Synergists didn't have to deal with breakage or time invested over the course of years...just a couple months and bam, you can make what it took me years to get to make.

btw...whenever I'm asked to be in the pt for a synergist, I don't actually get anything for it, you don't get rewarded for just being in a pt.