Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
There is enough gear out there to have a free avatar even outside of Abyssea. Even without doing any TotM staffs. With /RDM on you can have 3 mp refresh, which is enough to last you for a convert (assuming you also Elemental Siphon). I have not rested as a SMN inside or outside abyssea since 80 cap. Except when I'm weakened, but even then, only once.

Summoners can do outstanding damage without the need of resting their MP anymore. Thanks to Convert, Refresh, 550~ Elemental Siphons, and free avatars without avatar favor, we have become a top tier DD in the game. Add on atmas, and we are unstoppable.

Melee, we can add on Minkin/Raized Ruins/Apoc atmas and deal out instant damage while maintaining our TP (for WW/SW).
Magical, we can add on Minkin/Ultimate/Beyond (or any other +elemental damage) and become great "nukers" although our limitation of 45 seconds still sucks.
Solo, we can add on Ducal Guard ONLY to have 87.5% PDT reduction (BSTs can't even get that high with one atma) at 100% of our pet's life. Include Mounted Champion and there are just a few NMs out there we can't solo. Minkin for keeping MP up without having the need to convert.
Abyssea? I don't recall saying much about it on these forums but i hardly go... i go about once every 3 days since i don't really like the content. From my point of view (and the direction the game is headed.. you can pretty much call abyssea dynamis since its 100% about gearing up) emp. weapons allows a smn to do some pretty fly stuff so its hard to knock even for a class with super stagnant play.