[DEV1010] Pet job adjustments

[Volkai]

A silenced summoner can still use bloodpacts. It's actually less of a mage in that aspect since the job is most hurt by Amnesia, not silence.

Huh. I had not considered that particular point.

Still, if you can't summon something in the first place, you can't use your bloodpacts, so....

[Dallas]

Huh. I had not considered that particular point.

Still, if you can't summon something in the first place, you can't use your bloodpacts, so....

Psst, I was hoping for this from Korpg... Myrkr removes status effects from self. For everyone else, there are Echo Drops and the ability to not unsummon in the first place.

Not even bad BLM are once-every-45-seconds BLM. Something for the posers to think about. If you really think you are a BLM pet job, find a BLM that sucks as much as you.

[Korpg]

Psst, I was hoping for this from Korpg... Myrkr removes status effects from self. For everyone else, there are Echo Drops and the ability to not unsummon in the first place.

Not even bad BLM are once-every-45-seconds BLM. Something for the posers to think about. If you really think you are a BLM pet job, find a BLM that sucks as much as you.

Then why not invite a BLM instead of a SMN for the job?

Why are you in a party? I mean, since any other DD can do physical damage faster and more consistent than you. And any BLM (or SCH) can do more magical damage faster and more consistent than you.

Why are you in the party? Is it so you can spam a 0 damage WS just to keep yourself continuing to do damage with your avatar?

[Neisan_Quetz]

Then why not invite a BLM instead of a SMN for the job?

Why are you in a party? I mean, since any other DD can do physical damage faster and more consistent than you. And any BLM (or SCH) can do more magical damage faster and more consistent than you.

Why are you in the party? Is it so you can spam a 0 damage WS just to keep yourself continuing to do damage with your avatar?

Now you're getting it.

[Dallas]

Then why not invite a BLM instead of a SMN for the job?

You have no idea what's going on, do you? I play a pet job as a pet job. I've been doing it longer than BST have been welcome in parties. I've been doing it since before PUP existed. Everyone I know also knows me. They know what the emp staff means in my hands. I am never compared to a BLM.

I have been enjoying Myrkr for a while now. I must say, it is obvious that this weapon was designed to remove every flaw of Spirit Taker. It doesn't miss. You can't be out of range. TP past 100% isn't wasted. Silencega is no longer an issue. There is a good reason Spirit Taker became the model WS.

[Soundwave]

I really would like to see Camate reply to this thread.

Anywho....carry on, I enjoy this thread.

[Neisan_Quetz]

They probably are better off meleeing and using Rampage/Evis because pulling the mob away from the rest of the DD can be considered a detriment to all the other DD (bar having the Emp WS).

Glad you got that being a subpar DD isn't useful ergo Smn isn't useful. As long as it doesn't have high damage AoE and they are not being a detriment to the party, there is nothing wrong with a Summoner meleeing. You're both being stubborn.

[Korpg]

I never said that SMN isn't useful. Its just that SMNs have their own brand of usefulness.

They have specific roles, and Melee is not one of them.

[Neisan_Quetz]

And saying their role is never to melee is subjective. As I already pointed out without a subjob in between bloodpacts the only thing a summoner actually could do in a pt besides stand around and look pretty is melee. I'm not saying it is the only way to play Smn but being 100% backline isn't necessarily the only way to play the job either.

[Volkai]

The role of Summoner is not "never to melee," but it's safe to say the meleeing is at best incidental to the role a Summoner plays in a group.

If you are a Summoner, and you choose to melee, you had best be getting done whatever it is you're supposed to be doing and giving that priority. If you can do that and also melee (and contribute to the group by doing so) then there's no reason not to melee.