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    Player Runespider's Avatar
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    If you're talking about ??? where you trade a rare item to pop a NM then it's a macro not a bot. Most people make trade macros so they don't have to bother opening the menu. It takes far too long to do it from menu and a macro is much more efficient..
    Bots/scripts do exist to instantly target the variety of ??? and do the exact movements required, can make all the answers you like but they really are out there.
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    Last edited by Runespider; 05-04-2011 at 03:32 PM.

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    Player Kuishen's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Runespider View Post
    Bots/scripts do exist to instantly target the variety of ??? and do the exact movements required, can make all the answers you like but they really are out there.
    Just because they exist does not mean everybody who is faster than you is using them. >_>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuishen View Post
    Just because they exist does not mean everybody who is faster than you is using them. >_>
    Exactly.

    Every time you get beaten to an NM, whether it's a timed spawn or a force popped one, it does not mean whoever got claim/popped before you is botting. It annoys me to no end how so many people cry "OMG YOU BOT!!!" every time someone beats them to an NM. And you all wonder why you get this generic message from GMs when you place a call to them. I really wonder exactly how many of those butthurt "This player just botted <insertrandomnmhere>, ban them nao!" calls they receive every day.

    As for the OP's post: That's about the most impatient/lazy/selfish post I have seen here in a while. And saying that people aren't allowed to post in your thread unless they're SE employees? Really???
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    Last edited by Tamoa; 05-04-2011 at 04:27 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpankWustler
    In the FFXI universe, the down of Phoenix is so fine that it quickly broke down into a sort of dust. Smaller than dust, actually. A barely visible particle.

    This down was carried by the winds of Vana'diel. Some people breathed it in and contracted Phoenix Downs Syndrome. Some of those people post on this very board.

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    Player Misi's Avatar
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    While I would love the idea of a room with a lone ??? I can trade whatever pop item of choice for the NM I want, its unrealistic we'd be given that option. We are lucky enough with the changes being made in dynamis alone and look how long that took.

    Have you tried being civil with the counter campers? I've only run into a few groups that were really ignorant. Over half of the time, people are ok with taking turns, and even letting someone else free lot seals, ect that they don't want.

    If they don't respond or get aggressive, all bets are off. (or maybe there is another NM in that zone you can do while you wait I like opting for the second if at all possible.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wish12oz View Post
    If you have a controller all you have to do is mash the confirm button and hold up, and it pops stuff. I can pop KI pops in under a second.

    I fixed your spelling too~
    Thanks, I saw the error but I am too lazy to do it.
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

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    Player Miera's Avatar
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    I never go crying about someone botting if they beat me to a pop, however, If I see someone targeting a invisible ??? then I get suspicious.
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    You've been trolled! You've been trolled you have probably been told, "don't reply to this guy, he is just getting a rise out of you," yes its true you respond and that's his cue to start trouble on the double while he strokes his manly stubble. You've been trolled you've been trolled you should probably just fold when the only winning move is not to play! And yet you keep on trying mindlessly replying, you've been trolled, you've been trolled, have a nice day!

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    Erm, how do you know they're targeting an invisible ??? in the first place?

    That aside, what I do is put a macro "/item "Pop item" <stnpc> and then activate it before the ??? is even up. I spam tab 'til I see ??? and immediately hit enter. Sometimes I'm lucky and I grab it just as it appears, other times, I'm a second late or may even get beaten to the punch. It's possible it's just a fast macro, not necessarily botting.
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    this is a time when an opinion FINALLY is useful, especially in the face of "BTW I don't need to any discussion on this, this post is for the developers so please don't post in my thread if you are not a se employee."

    this entire post totally circumvents what this forum is good for - the users input

    users, plural, us. i dont want instanced nm's, i can wait three minutes between pops.
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    You can't even hold it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anewie View Post
    Hm... What would auntie Isladar do?
    Nuke discussion threads and allow bots one as usual ¿

    Instance content can i have it?

    I think a lot of people misunderstood me in that last thread. I would really like It if NM were instance so I am not wasting so much time online or something similar.
    (Especially in a timed zoned it just makes me want quit again)

    I shouldn't have to wait until someone else pops a NM and kills it before my group has a chance at it. l really want my kannagi.
    BTW I don't need to any discussion on this, this post is for the developers so please don't post in my thread if you are not a se employee.
    I agree with the OP. *** is becoming dragon's aery II on all popular spots with timed NMs. The next content should be instanced.
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    Last edited by Qeepel; 05-05-2011 at 02:13 AM. Reason: Violation of forum guidelines. Profanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkovChain View Post



    I agree with the OP. *** is becoming dragon's aery II on all popular spots with timed NMs. The next content should be instanced.

    But it can't be because the game does not support true instancing, only multiple copies of small areas inside a single large zone.

    And if they won't even do something as easy as updating the PC client to DirectX 9 they certainly won't do something that requires a major overhaul of the client and server software.
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    Last edited by Qeepel; 05-05-2011 at 02:14 AM. Reason: Edited quote for profanity.

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