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    Quote Originally Posted by Habiki View Post
    Scholars roll is great for blms since their set bonus is based off conserve mp, making it way better then caster's roll in the long run, who wouldn't want to do better dmg over having a shorter casting time and recast. All the rolls are dependant on whos in the party.
    Still not better than Wizard's/Warlock's. You're basing your argument on Scholar's beating Caster's, but I wouldn't use Caster's either for BLMs. In any situation Scholar's is good for (healer with refresh), Caster's is probably better.

    Also, if you need MP (and with atma or /RDM, that may not even be a concern), Evoker's is generally more MP-efficient than Scholar's - it certainly is before factoring in BLM AF3 set effect, and even then would depend on the random nature of Conserve MP kicking in plus the rate at which the BLM is casting spells.

    Evoker's/Caster's on a healer.
    Wizard's and either Warlock's/Evoker's on nukers.
    SCH roll has some utility, but not enough to ever be in the top 2 in any situation I find myself in.

    I haven't had a single reason to use Scholar's since 75cap world, in lv64 to pre-merit level parties. After Evoker's, nothing else really did anything for a healer with refresh who wasn't resting. Evoker's/Scholar's on the healer, two melee rolls on the melees. Even once you hit 75 merits that went away - 1 melee roll, 1 mage roll, Corsair's roll for everyone.
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    Last edited by Anza; 05-28-2011 at 05:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anza View Post
    Still not better than Wizard's/Warlock's. You're basing your argument on Scholar's beating Caster's, but I wouldn't use Caster's either for BLMs. In any situation Scholar's is good for (healer with refresh), Caster's is probably better.

    Also, if you need MP (and with atma or /RDM, that may not even be a concern), Evoker's is generally more MP-efficient than Scholar's - it certainly is before factoring in BLM AF3 set effect, and even then would depend on the random nature of Conserve MP kicking in plus the rate at which the BLM is casting spells.

    Evoker's/Caster's on a healer.
    Wizard's and either Warlock's/Evoker's on nukers.
    SCH roll has some utility, but not enough to ever be in the top 2 in any situation I find myself in.

    I haven't had a single reason to use Scholar's since 75cap world, in lv64 to pre-merit level parties. After Evoker's, nothing else really did anything for a healer with refresh who wasn't resting. Evoker's/Scholar's on the healer, two melee rolls on the melees. Even once you hit 75 merits that went away - 1 melee roll, 1 mage roll, Corsair's roll for everyone.
    I agree with you on warlocks and wizards being better but i cant ever see using casters over scholars and thats what i replied to. Evokers is still useful outside abyssea but inside its pointless also scholars is probably better for a blm brewing rather then using warlocks evokers casters or wizards. Then again im not a blm just would think so since your capped on pretty much everything with a brew.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Habiki View Post
    I agree with you on warlocks and wizards being better but i cant ever see using casters over scholars and thats what i replied to. Evokers is still useful outside abyssea but inside its pointless also scholars is probably better for a blm brewing rather then using warlocks evokers casters or wizards. Then again im not a blm just would think so since your capped on pretty much everything with a brew.
    For mages, I've never actually given them anything more than evoker's (or wiz+warlock for blm). More recently, inside abyssea, I don't bother giving them rolls. Melee rolls, then focus on more Wildfires.
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