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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen View Post
    I only read the first two pages so I'll make a statement using those.
    lol. Way to stay informed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    Basically, the argument about Cure V is a very valid one. We need it, we are not the 4th or the 3rd best healers in the game but the second best. Second only to WHM, so why wouldn't we get Cure V since when no one can find a whm they ask a SCH next? But atm the moment, we have problems healing correctly? I don't think so. Use rapture in combination with the af3 and some cure potency (I have a partially finished cure staff) and your cure IVs will reach 800hp healed easy. Yes, cure V and VI can cure much more but for the time being, we have to make due with what we have ^^. That said, we are the second best healers in the game, the second best enfeeblers, the second best nukers. Which all in all, makes us better then every other magician in the game over all. Transitive property and all that haha.
    How many times outside of Abyssea have you actually needed Cure V? If you're having trouble keeping up Stoneskin, Phalanx and/or Regen III on your party, Cure V isn't going to magically fix your lack of skill and Stratagem/MP management. I'm really wondering how you gauge that SCH is "second best" about everything. Game is situational and it's dumb that people keep wanting to rank jobs like it actually means something.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    That said, we need a bump in magic. They need to adjust the grimoires to push us to an A now instead of B+. It can even be A- but that would at least get us closer to being at the lvl of healing, nuking, or enfeebling that the big three are at.
    Skill means something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    On the subject of nuking, I can easily outnuke lolblms but the well geared ones can double and sometimes triple my 2.5k nukes. Yes triple, dude on my server was doing 7.5k blizz Vs regularly ; ;. Anyways, to combat this, we definitely need a speed increase and a mab boost. We got some minor ones but then our traits became more associated with Clear Mind rather than boosts to cure potency or mab. I was thinking something along the lines of:

    -Cure potency under White arts: +2% every 10 lvls.
    -MAB under dark arts: +2mab/macc every 10 lvls
    So at lvl 90 we'd be at 18% cure potency and +18 mab/macc under our grimoires. No, this is not overpowered. WHMs can hit 50%+ cure potency and BLMS can hit 50+ mab. Macc not so much haha. I feel like this would not get us to their lvls but very close to being able to nip at their heels and make them feel pressure.
    No, no, no. Are you talking about nuking inside or outside of Abyssea. Because if you're only doing ~2.5K inside of Abyssea, you're doing something wrong. That's weaksauce. You want to cast faster? Use Alacrity. You want more damage? Use Ebullience. Jesus, it's like you people forget that SCH has Stratagems to use. You people keep demanding that Light Arts and Dark Arts get native bonuses added to them. You seem to forget they already do. Casting/recasting time reduction and MP cost reduction isn't good enough? If you want more, more, more then sub /RDM. More Fast Cast and at least then you'll be getting some Magic Attack Bonus. And if your proposed ideas "would not get us to their level" of skill, then why bother at all? Isn't that the whole point of your endless complaining and demands? To turn SCH into WHM and BLM. Oh, wait...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    Now for some things I thought up.
    Spells:
    -One that nulls enmity direction. As in instead of raising or lowering it makes the enmity stay constant so that no matter the action someone takes, the enmity will stay the same. Put it on a high recast to balance it and make it target the monster. Duration 1 min.
    Uh... provide an example of when this will ever be more useful than just using the spells we already have to increase/decrease enmity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    - Give us the tier I-III gas in some form. BLM has received Jas which are essentially a new form of ga. Which means they'll probably be getting a ja II from merits or some other form in addition to ga IVs and meteor. I don't think giving us the other gas will hurt much.
    You have no idea what new spells or merits will be available to BLM. Furthermore, if we were to extend the parameters of that idea, we should also get Curaga spells. If you want to play with Curaga, then go play WHM. Or use Accession and any Cure spell. And even if you had access to elemental -ga spells, what use would they be? Oh boy, you can trigger grellow !! in Abyssea. Who cares. Get a BLM to do it. It's not like there aren't 200 online at any given moment, anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    - Cure V, Regen IV, the basic enfeebling series. I can't tell you how dumb it is that we don't get paralyze, gravity, dia, and the others. SCHs were mages built on battle strategy during the crystal wars....so why wouldn't they learn how to use spells that enfeeble at a basic level?
    You want Paralyze, Gravity, Dia, etc.? Then sub /RDM. Wow, fixed. Cure V, Regen IV... whatever. It's not like SCH actually needs either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jomen
    Abilities/traits:
    -Elemental celerity
    -more strat. charges
    -a strategm that reduces enmity generation for the next black or white spell
    -a strategm that allows you to use two charges to double an effect. Ex: stack the effect of rapture to do a 100% increase on a cure IV
    If you want Elemental Celerity so bad, go play BLM. 5 Stratagem charges on a ridiculously low recast timer isn't good enough? A stratagem that reduces enmity on the next spell... Do you even have SCH at 75+? Have you even looked at SCH merits before?? Lastly, we already have stratagems that enhance potency. Use them.

    I'm starting to wonder if you even have SCH leveled?
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    Last edited by Fetus; 03-19-2011 at 06:04 AM.