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  1. #61
    Player Gradd's Avatar
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    Gradd
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    Fenrir
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    DRK Lv 90
    Most people are foolish idiots when they talk about liberator and don't realize its full potential.

    At 75 it parsed on par with Apoc(without capped haste gear), the Key to all Mythic weapons is being able to ride the 300% OAT effect, this is what makes Ryunohige the monstrous weapon that it is for DRG. Kirschy would use insurgency keep the 300% AM up then spam guillotine during its duration, then right before it wore making sure to have enough TP to renew the AM. Now you can cap haste with it which pretty much guarantees it is better than Apoc. The 90 Lib has a 15% boot to Insurgency as well, so you would be spamming that instead of guillotine during AM.
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  2. #62
    Player Dart's Avatar
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    Limlight
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    Carbuncle
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    DRK Lv 99
    on paper it can keep up, but practical application has shown otherwise. I'm not saying its a terrible weapon by any means mind you.
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  3. #63
    Player Kagato's Avatar
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    Thats what I'm understanding, Dart. However, let's see what it's 95 and 99 version brings to the table.
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  4. #64
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    ive actually heard this too about liberator, not sure on which forum, was probably bg cus i rarely checked ffxiah before recently, but yea it was all about being able to throw the AM back up at 300tp just after it wears
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  5. #65
    Player Madawc's Avatar
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    Madawc
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    Quetzalcoatl
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    DRK Lv 90
    Catastrophe

    Problem 1: No longer full benefit from the Haste effect as regular gear will reach the cap.
    Problem 2: Damage too low, a tiny dagger vs a monster blade which should do the most dmg?
    Problem 3: If user is at 100% HP before WS, the drained HP will have no effect.

    Solution 1: Put Haste aftermath in its own category which can reach a new "90% cap". (Or place it in magic)
    Solution 2: Amplify the damage compareable to polearm/gkt/gaxe.
    Solution 3: Surplus HP drained to be added to next attack as additional damage (similar to how Souleater is added, other additional effects will also proc with it) or stack it with Drain2 for a higher max HP.
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  6. #66
    Player Habiki's Avatar
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    Habiki
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    Bismarck
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    BLU Lv 99
    Race plays a role in dmg of guillotine and insurgency so buffing one and not the other would only lead to no balance between respective races as far as dmg gos.
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  7. #67
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    Lugat
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    Ragnarok
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    DRK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Habiki View Post
    Race plays a role in dmg of guillotine and insurgency so buffing one and not the other would only lead to no balance between respective races as far as dmg gos.
    i laughed pretty hard at this one

    race means almost nothing bro
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  8. #68
    Player Habiki's Avatar
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    Habiki
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    When inside abyssea nothing matters can go naked and out dd any dark on warrior why are you guys all so against raising the potential of all the weaker weaponskills just because some are quested and some arent doesnt mean they all don't need attention. I guess noone skillchains anymore so why have more weaponskills that are capable of doing damage.
    SE just fix redemption forget about everything else only people who put 3 days into building their weapon should get to do good damage according to most everyone.
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  9. #69
    Player Urteil's Avatar
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    Urteil
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    Phoenix
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    DRK Lv 99
    Apocalypse is amazing simply because of the disgusting low manning and soloing opportunities it brings to the table.
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    Limlight
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    Carbuncle
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    DRK Lv 99
    ..................../sigh
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