Do you think it's time to simplify the Ultimate Weapon creation process?

[nixRidge]

Hi all. Sometime last year I created the Lv. 90 Twashtar, but during the process I was wondering if the full process is really warranted anymore.

Are the weapons still so good nowadays, that they warrant camping Notorious Monsters for many hours, and collecting several thousand stones?
This is a genuine question, I haven't played this game nearly as long as most people on this forum has so I might be clueless.

I'm not suggesting they should be given away for free, just to be clear.
I was thinking it might be nice to at least shorten some of the Magian Trials.

For the Twashtar, I was thinking something like this could be done:

• 10 Glavoid Shell (down from 50)
• 25 Itzpapalotl Scales (down from 50)
• 50 Orthrus Claws (down from 75)
• 750 Heavy Metal (down from 1 500)
• 45 Riftdross (down from 60)
• 7 500 Stones (down from 10 000)

If nothing else, I'd be happy if they reduced the amount of Glavoid you have to kill... Good lord that was painful

Anyway, I understand these are supposed to be extremely special weapons that most players will not obtain, so it makes sense the process is a bit painful.
But again, some of these steps could really stand to be simplified in my opinion..

I'm curious what more experienced players feel about the matter.
Thank you in advance for sharing your opinions!

[Gwydion]

I would like this.

...I would also like if there was more content that took advantage of empyrean aftermath? Lots of moving around makes white damage less appealing than say, Prime Weapons + PDL.

[Voidstorm]

I think it's time to get Kupon-I Aby added to the monthly Ambuscade rewards. probably 10 per month split between the 3 categories.
Also bring those materials back to Login more frequently.

[nixRidge]

That'd help a lot just by itself. Good idea

[Okosego]

I definitely think the Heavy Metal Plates should be lowered from 1500.

[nixRidge]

I'm glad I'm not the only one. Haha.

[Alhanelem]

I was thinking it might be nice to at least shorten some of the Magian Trials.

Relic weapons in particular are so easy now I can't really agree with shortening this. All these types of weapons are meant to take a signifcant amount of time. You're not supposed to get all of them. (though I'm sure a few people have, except for the prime weapons)

Even with these lengthy trials the newer uber weapon lines are still longer.

These grinds are a major factor in keeping people playing. If you shorten them, certain people who complain of having nothing to do will have even less to do.

[nixRidge]

Yeah, I actually never looked much at the relic weapons until now. Those seem really easy to make!


To be entirely fair, the biggest factor that inspired me to make this thread to begin with was Glavoid. After spawning that thing fifty times, Itzpapalotl and Orthrus were downright pleasant xD


If not shortening some of the trials themselves, maybe some of the NMs could be a little easier to spawn instead. That would aid a few of the most painful weapons.
Still on the topic of Glavoid, if it was easier to spawn, that'd aid the Ukonsvara and Wicce armour as well as the Twashtar. I don't mean all of them should be easier to spawn, since Orthrus is already extremely easy to spawn. But Glavoid, man that thing is just the worst.

[Alhanelem]

some specific cases could be made due to imbalances on the content side where X weapon has abyssea mobs that can be spawned / killed more easily than weapon Y. That's fine in the name of balancing.

[Frededde]

Ambuscade already simplified the RME forging process.