About the Abyssea areas

[PizzaTheHut]

Lazy is the _kind way_ to put a lot of these louts.

I mean, it's almost gotten to the point that a party leader in Abyssea has to keep an eye that there isn't at least a third of his party AFK, leeching the crap out of the situation (with the exception of the occasional cash-in of their Dominion Ops or, worse, a ninja-lot).

This is why I like leading myself. I can police it and allow no leeching in my parties. Especially when we just start and someone says "brb food" ... Like you couldn't do all that during the gather part...

If we've been there for at least an hour and you need a bathroom break that's cool, we all do. Ten minutes. If I don't see any action from you I wait 5 more then leave you a "Kicking you for leeching message, you want back in /tell before I replace you"

I love the responses in /tells I've received at how great I run parties over the past year. Real players want a good leader who isn't afraid to take action.

Can't wait to weed out the Ifrit leechers coming to Odin.

[Rionaheart]

Abyssea is so easy you can still get TE and Exp with just a party of 6 why do as an alliance nms and bosses ye and it may also help with the leach situation just a thought.

[Cream_Soda]

Well, unless you're Kirschy, researching is going to make you a better player than learning it "naturally".

You don't just pull all the game formulas out of your rear. Every person who researches their job is going to have the potential to be a better player than those who do not.

Period.

[Wenceslao]

I really think SE has nothing to do with it, we are the problem, if we keep allowing more than one leech per pt, well... look at the results, if SE raise lvl cap for abyss, the ppls will just find another way, we should put the example and do some old school pt on old zone some times to teach new players how is done (well its my humble opinion), really guys its in ourself to put a balance on the game, remember old times when even get a dynamis ls was a great task, as even 75ppls would be rejected if they didn't know its roll, we can do much on this game without being really ekitist, we should teach new ppls how was done and how should be done, if we as pt leader just forbid leeching well it could be a start, but those new players would be discouraged to keep playing, but if instead we start pting again in old zones, they would be encouraged to do it, SE has even raised exp received upon killing mobs in outside abyssea zones, think about it guys, we have not blame new players or SE, we all are vana'diel

[Renromix]

No just take out TE from Abyssea so you will have choice to use your stone to leech or do NM's to get your gears

[Krystal]

No just take out TE from Abyssea so you will have choice to use your stone to leech or do NM's to get your gears

removing the time extention? now there's a creative idea...but it still wouldn't fix the overall problem...players woudl simply just huddle outside the maws for an hour then jump back in...no problem solved.

[Cream_Soda]

removing the time extention? now there's a creative idea...but it still wouldn't fix the overall problem...players woudl simply just huddle outside the maws for an hour then jump back in...no problem solved.

In order for a problem to be solved, there has to be one to begin with.

If you prefer traditional leveling, find 5 people who agree with you and make a static/level the way you want to. Let everyone else level the way they want to.

Nobody is stopping or even trying to stop you from leveling in the manner you see fit.

They have theirs

You have yours

and I have mine

Together we will find that it takes different strokes to rule the world, yes it does.

[Krystal]

In order for a problem to be solved, there has to be one to begin with.

If you prefer traditional leveling, find 5 people who agree with you and make a static/level the way you want to. Let everyone else level the way they want to.

Nobody is stopping or even trying to stop you from leveling in the manner you see fit.

They have theirs

You have yours

and I have mine

Together we will find that it takes different strokes to rule the world, yes it does.

yah,yah..go on and jump in abyssea and burn your jobs to 90 you damn abby noob....seriously. you have done nothing but attempt to discredit every post i have made or any other has made that proved valid points..so do us a favor...snap your SE key in half, log out of the forums, and don't come back...unless you can actually say something that doesn't discredit a statement.

[Wenceslao]

In order for a problem to be solved, there has to be one to begin with.

If you prefer traditional leveling, find 5 people who agree with you and make a static/level the way you want to. Let everyone else level the way they want to.

Nobody is stopping or even trying to stop you from leveling in the manner you see fit.

They have theirs

You have yours

and I have mine

Together we will find that it takes different strokes to rule the world, yes it does.

that's what im telling you guys, lol, i agree