About the Abyssea areas

[Todo]

This has been something that has been eating at me since the release of abyssea. i am a hardcore player and strong believer in the fact levels should be earned..not given on a silver platter. SE nearly signed FFXI's death warrant when they released abyssea. new players don't know what to do and leave because they have no idea how to level or learn how to do alot of the fun things in FFXI. i down right refuse to level ANY JOB AT ALL in those zones. i frankly down right hate abyssea for the fact it's killing FFXI as it is right now. the only time i have anything to do with it is when i have to merit on one of my level 90 jobs. and the armor..forget it! i want nothing to do with it.

You're completely off base blaming Abyssea for new players not knowing what the hell they're doing.

I've been playing for two months. I've never had a previous account, I'm one of those rare actually new people. I bought Abyssea because I thought I would just get a job to 30 than leach to 50, do my LB, leach to 55, etc.

EVERYONE seems to think that people that do Abyssea parties are like "Oh hey, you don't have Cruor to buy keys? You're literally just going to join this party, sit here, contribute absolutely nothing to the party? OKAY! WE"D LOVE TO HAVE YOU!"

If you aren't key whoring, you're not going to get into an Abyssea party as a sub 75 job. At least not on my server. (Odin.)

If you wanted to argue that new players get the shaft because everyone is in Abyssea, and new players are basically stuck to Qufim parties, there would be some merit in that. I set up all my own parties, and it can be difficult to find parties for post 30 places, however, you would actually be surprised.

There is a nostalgic feeling for places like Crawlers Nest and Gargliage (Pardon my horrendous spelling ><) And people seem excited to go to those places. It's a nice change of pace from just leeching your job to 90.

In conclusion:

Everyone needs to calm the f down about how new players are just leeching jobs to 90 because of Abyssea. I would say MAYBE 1% of the new player population is actually doing that. If that much. New players (try to) make parties and level the exact same way you did when you first did it, at least with their first job.

And, unless this game is vastly different from EVERY OTHER MMO, after someone has gotten one job to 90 the "real" way, they probably have a good grasp of this game. Yes, a WHM and THF have VASTLY different mechanics, but you're not completely new to the game like you were when you first started. It's easier to pick up what you have to do and what not to do, when to do what, etc. The 1-30 level grind teaches a lot, regardless of how you want to spin it.

[Zumi]

You're complaining about bad players but bad players existed before abyssea was out. So I honestly don't see the point in this topic OP. For example that DRG that would be in bird camp full timing AF1 and missing gear in other slots. ect

[Judge]

its been mentioned that new ppl join who don't know how to play and leech to 90. level cap aside newbs nubs and fatheads have existed as long as i have played. i know ppl who have played for 7 years who have NIN and still cant find their way to Norg. learning how to play has nothing to do with your current job level.

the level cap for abyssea is irrelevant for 2 reasons.
1) once you hit 50.. EVERY 5 levels is a limit break that cannot be breezed through solo in any short time. more than likely you will recruit someone higher lvl to help(MMO.. work together? what a concept!)thats still a tedious and necessary roadblock
2) between FOV and level sync parties most ppl either solo, don't have skills, or dont know how to work together anyway... so at least those newer to the game stand a chance at learning how to play alongside ppl that may be able to support them and eventually contribute to the group.
So either you want to help: Sync down to gimp-sauce levels and whiff worms and gobs all day
Or: Drag your friend along with you while you smash through hordes of monsters with satisfying bloodshed as someone of high level power should be doing.
Or you don't want to help(then who is being the lazy one?)

[Juri_Licious]

Did you really just bump this old thread?

[Ravenmore]

Lazy players were always around. They leeched off every sinlge party they joined. Also leveling faster then skills capping is nothing new, jobs that have to use 2 differnt weapons or rdm. Dnc is told to not even bother with daggers till mid to late 20s why they suck before that. Sam had to have polearm skilled to for bird parties. For the most part rdms didnt really have a chance on the way up to cap elemental skill and once you hit birds if you casted anything but dia on a mob you were kick, hell even then half the party would whine. Unless they get rid of abyssea level sync and the exp boost we will have to skill up.