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    Remove sellable items from Legion / レギオン

    Legion / レギオン uses the same zone for Ambuscade, people farm items from it to sell and do it for long periods of time.

    Removing sellable items lowers the congestion from an important zone used for ambuscade, legion should not be a gil farming location. Add those sellable drops to ambuscade.
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    Group punishment for a handful of bad actors is always a stupid response.

    Ban the bots. The hell is wrong with you suggesting they remove sellable items for everyone to stop 1 or 2 dbags from botting legion.
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    Last edited by Uroah; 07-29-2025 at 11:09 PM.

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    Remove sellable items from legion is common sense, they should not be there.
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    Why not just ask for Legion to be removed from the game entirely? Without the sellable drops - several of which are ludicrously annoying to get even with Legion, and damn near impossible otherwise - the content is only meaningful to do once for the title and rare enemy+ vorseal. Making abyssite and vorseals inaccessible is a design choice that's been committed to anyway, so why not just axe Legion in its entirety?

    Goldsmithing's going to kind of super suck when the only place to get palladian brass ore is gone, but hey, people should have no problem with spamming allied note NMs for luminium ore or crafting hundreds of platinum rings to get their skillup synth materials instead, right?
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    Because it's less work to remove the sellable items from it, and it fixes the problem.

    They should not be there, it's almost exclusively botted due to being so easy and the dungeon being linked to ambuscade means it's a problem. There are also lots of other exploits people use related to it too, as you know.

    Remove the sellable items from legion, add those sellable to ambuscade = fixed a lot of problems with a small amount of work.
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    Or, you know, even easier fix, make a third hall and only update Ambuscade to poll it when it's trying to open an instance. More room for Ambuscade for those months when for some inexplicable reason a third of each server's population is suddenly doing Ambuscade and spending a half hour a run on it, Legion's impact is negated, and we don't have to find out what happens to a server economy when you make a bunch of crafting materials 100% Ambuscade exclusive.
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    Putting some Japanese in your topic title isn't going to get you more attention.

    As for Legion, this isn't a solution. In a rare case I have to agree with our resident bot complainer. Your diagnosis of the problem is incorrect and your solution is terrible. The valuable items are the only reason to even do Legion at all. And its not like people don't do Ambu for gil either. It's all the same in the end. The proper solution is to either ban the bots or reduce Asura's population. This isn't a problem anywhere else. And it seems SE has chosen the latter.

    Removing good drops from Legion punishes the many for the actions of the few / the non-human - something SE has already done way too often.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-30-2025 at 04:02 AM.

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    Legion is heavily abused, because the content was badly implemented and so the people farming it don't even farm the key items to participate repeatedly as it was designed. If the developers sit at the content invisible and watch people doing it, and investigate how they are obtaining the key items (or not) they will have a lot of people to ban.

    It's heavily abused and broken content, it's botted by RMT and it's causing congestion for Ambuscade when it would be far easier and better to put those money drops into content that has better server entry checks.

    Not only should it be fixed by removing the money items (and so negating the reason to spam it and cause un-needed congestion to the most important content in the game) but also it's broken and abused by RMT bots using 3rd party tools to get free entries.

    resident bot complainer
    You know what else he is right? that he is mad should say a lot, if you do.
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    Last edited by radar; 07-30-2025 at 05:09 AM.

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    You don't fix "heavily abused" content by making it unappealing to do at all lol.

    You punish the abusers.

    If SE listened to you, all items would just be rare EX and there would be no gil or trade at all.
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 07-30-2025 at 06:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    You don't fix "heavily abused" content by making it unappealing to do at all lol.

    You punish the abusers.
    Legion is backwater content, the developers do not notice what has been going on for many years with RMT bots and have probably forgotten it even exists.

    With the current fixation with congestion (primarily on ambuscade) it's the perfect time for that to change.

    Many of the automated individuals who were farming it have stopped, I wonder why.
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