Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of people who have pointed out that the new Limbus experience is completely demoralizing.

It takes over an hour to complete a Temenos or Apollyon climb and get to the final chest, only to frequently not get matter, even with fully upgraded chests due to server NM kills. That is just depressing.

Matter should be 100% drop rate if chests are fully upgraded, and 5k bonus chests should give 2 matters. A substantial exemplar point bonus should be added to the final chest. Furthermore, there ought to be forced pop NMs, or boss NMs that are popped by completing a climb, that give units and an additional chance to obtain matters.

I have done some clears and given up on the system.