Limbus II feedback

[Gwydion]

I hate limbus, because I hate staring at progress bars.
I hate limbus, because I hate the menu system.

Choosing the right/wrong floor gives me menu-fatigue. 20% of my /playtime is probably spent in Menus!

[Alhanelem]

This isn't challenging content, it's a timesink.

You're correct. That's exactly what it's supposed to be. That player message is just warning you not to be irresponsible. Just like your local lottery also warns you not to play the lottery too much. It doesn't mean there can't be or won't be grinds in the game. Anyone who's ever played this game anytime in the last 20+ years understands that grinds have always been central to the game.

[Eth]

Just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of people who have pointed out that the new Limbus experience is completely demoralizing.

It takes over an hour to complete a Temenos or Apollyon climb and get to the final chest, only to frequently not get matter, even with fully upgraded chests due to server NM kills. That is just depressing.

Matter should be 100% drop rate if chests are fully upgraded, and 5k bonus chests should give 2 matters. A substantial exemplar point bonus should be added to the final chest. Furthermore, there ought to be forced pop NMs, or boss NMs that are popped by completing a climb, that give units and an additional chance to obtain matters.

I have done some clears and given up on the system.

[Alhanelem]

It takes over an hour to complete a Temenos or Apollyon climb and get to the final chest, only to frequently not get matter, even with fully upgraded chests due to server NM kills. That is just depressing.

An hour long thing is depressing?

I'm a SMN and I only have Trust to work with. It takes me MUCH longer than that. And while I can only be bothered to do so here and there, I'm only really irritated by the fact that I can only use 3 trust and that they're still significantly inferior right now (although that's slowly changing), because if I could just fill a party of Trust and they were just a bit more capable, it would be significantly faster.

I'm not even after the matter or any of the new crafted stuff at the moment, I've just been upgrading relic armor.

[Voidstorm]

it's because it's 1 hour+ in each apollyon + temenos for a chance at 1 jewel (2 matters + shards). That chance is too low, you're looking at probably a six+ hour grind for one rank even going from rank 0 to 1.

That just isn't worth the effort.