Limbus II feedback

[Nelius]

03-23-2026:

Hello!

I feel like my post needs a refresh because it is getting outdated.
The new Limbus armors are really nice, but the whole system of Limbus became worst in some way.
So first off,
Since the Limbus number of treasures we can open per week is limited to 5 per zone, it should not be so much work to reach that limit. Most people disllikes Limbus so it is very hard to find anyone to team up with, forcing me to solo climbs. It takes me around 3 hours to clear all 4 towers and open 1 treasure. Most of the time I only get only 1 crystal (Shard of ***) and 1 material. In the past months I only got an average of 3 murky/alabaster matter and 30 to 40 crystals. That is counting around 30 climbs per month.
We need 31 murky, 31 alabaster and 155 or rather 310 crystals (because we need to turn them in the appropriate kind, hence divide by 2)

That means getting only 1 piece of armor to rank 30 is easy for the lucky, but for me it is around 30 hours to 50 hours of grind per rank, getting only 1 rank every 2 weeks. My Units are capped and I cannot use them because I do not have the matter and crystals for it and all my Artifacts and Relics are +4.

When done with a party, it is a great amount of time saved to do climbs, but still the number of matter and crystals we get are way too low, my units are capped and cannot be used.

This needs to change fast, please.

Suggestion :
Like I suggested before;
Climbing one tower should allow us to open the treasure at the end, like original Limbus used to be.

-The drop rate for murky matter and alabaster needs to be increase to be 100%, of very close to.
-The treasures at the end of each towers needs to yield a Jewel, maybe 30% drop rate.
-The 5th treasure opened in the same week should drop 1 alabaster matter, 1 murky matter, 10 crystals and 1 Jewel (Jewel of Revelation for hume as example).
-The furnace needs to allow us to trade 2 Jewel for 1 of our choice.
-We need to be able to use units to purchase crystals, matters & jewels.

-Probably add an option to open the treasure at the end of each towers, for having only the 4-7 data temporary items. Then increase rewards for opening 1 treasure for owning all data from all towers like it currently is. This way the player can choose a more fitting option for solo play and still get decent rewards for time invested. While keeping a better appeal for party climbs that will do all data before opening a treasure.

Please do not make us grind 40 hours a week for a limited 5 openings a week if it could be just 1 tower per treasure and cost us 8 hours instead of 40h, for solo players.

Finally, there are still trains that MPK people in Apollyon, because a lot of players trains 30-40 foes, kills only 5 then goes up... Leaving an army of 30 monsters moving back to the center of the area, aggroing and killing anything in its path!

So, as I suggested before;
Please remove all link and all true sight true sound from Limbus.
What about making the trains despawn, when who pulled them change floors, like in almost every other area?

Thank you !

PS: Personally , I think Temenos is bad, it feels like it is way too much work to constantly re-apply sneak invis to go up, still get aggro from true sight, it is extremely painful, having to go trough all that pain for 3-4 hours and finally open a box to get nothing... Farming something you dislike for dozens of hours to get Alabaster matter that are needed to reforge armors and be empty handed at the end is a horrible feeling of overwhelmingly unrewarding efforts. So clearly, there is a need of adjustement for people forced to solo.

Thank you!


06-19-2025 at 04:45 PM:

Hello!

The new Limbus is great in many ways, and bad or horrible in many others.

FFXI needed an event offering freedom to play solo, in party or alliance to progress further as endgame content. Limbus II does all that and for this, it is a great new event FFXI needed.

However, many problems appears in the process;

1- It is way too grindy , getting 5 treasure per week sounds good if we can climb just 1 of the Temenos towers and open the treasure at the end of that tower for a 5000 units reward.
But having to climb all towers for a slight 3-5k units is close to absurd ammount of grind.
Also, if we are to cap at 100k units possible to farm in 1 week, then it needs to be actually possible to earn it;
My suggestion is climb 1 of temenos tower to open the treasure at the end to earn 5000 to 8000 units. OR
Do all the climb of all towers to earn a 25 000 to 30 000 units in 1 treasure opening.
This way it actually is possible to max out the 100k weekly limit.
This should be similar in Apollyon where climbing 1 area offers the possibility to open the treasure at the end of that area. OR, do a full climb before open 1 treasure for exta units bonus.

2- The aggro and link of foes is absolutely annoying, especially in Temenos. The area is very narrow and trying to fight 1 enemy ends up in a huge train. Those trains caused me to get MPK from other players wipes from their trains; I already lost over 300k exemplar points from this, despite having the Vital Grace KI.
We need a non aggro non link , especially for Temenos, and despawn of the train if puller KO.
I have to mention it is extremely annoying having to fight a 6 foes train when we only need 4 kills to get the temp item. On top of that we have to use sneak invisible every floors just to walk to the next room and teleport up.
That is extremely annoying too and is a huge slow down.
Temenos is horribly painful to farm right now as it is.

3- The rewards are extremely disappointing.
A lot of the new stats on +4 makes sense in a manner where they are widely adjusted, for example parts that didn't have magic accuracy now has it. That makes a lot of sense and was deeply needed.
What makes the new armors +4 disappointing;
They all needed a 8% up to 14% -damage taken. For All Jobs, for all parts.
Most of them are used just for casting a spell or using a job ability or use a weapon skill.
So they are equipped only for 1s. Which is why they deeply needed -dt% bonuses on every parts, to make it easier on us to make gear change sets.
For example, my DRK has new awesome magic accuracy bonus on AF parts that adds up nicely with set bonus, but I can't use them because they don't have -dt% so it makes them pointless.
For melee jobs & hybrid jobs, they needed Store TP bonus, Double, Triple or Quadruple Attack bonus, and/or Physical Damage limit + bonuses.
For magic user jobs, they needed Conserve MP, Fast Cast, Refresh and/or Magic Burst Bonuses.
For all jobs, they need a renewed job bonuses, for example the equipments that requires us to wear it to earn the bonuses from a job ability needs to be changed so we only need to wear the equipment when using the job ability for the bonus to remain for as long as the job ability is still in effect, allowing us to change equipments and still get the bonus.
Also, for all jobs, they need to have job effects increased, for example Job ability +1, should be increased to +2. etc.

The new Artifact +4 and Relic+4 feels like they already are outdated since they do not offer anything nicer than equipments that were released more than 5 years ago.
In that manner, as soon as something new and stronger will be added to the game, the +4 will look completely awkward and obselete.

Please adjust the +4 Artifacts and Relics with adding to them, as minima, a 8 to 14% damage taken per parts. Especially on those with weaponskill damage bonus.
Also, please adjust the rewards from climbing trough Limbus so we don't have to spent 10 hours a day farming it to acheive a slight 40k units per week, when it should be 1 or 2 hours a day only to reach a weekly 50k points.

Thank you !

[Dragoy]

Indeed, considering the reward, the grind seems a bee wit out of balance.

It's also a bit strange that there are so many different chests, but perhaps it's for convenience so that you can do the areas in any order... but... still strange.

It would make more sense if we could open them each after getting the key for the area, and there's also this bug report [1] about confirming that which... they were unable to verify?

Did they not have access to Limbus or something?

I hope they will also re-add the Limbus RoE objectives so that people can still complete those, and also Omega and Ultima of course for the titles and such that the things those are required for will become available once more again.

1. Limbus Chest Requirements

[Voidstorm]

I would have liked to see at least the styles of mobs you would find to have carried over from the original limbus.
Central Temenos having one floor with various species of beasts/bugs/dragons/etc, one that's just all beastmen, another that's a mix of avatars and elementals, and the fourth as it's not JUST Ultima now housing the luminians and lumorians.

Every single floor in every Limbus used to be unique. now none of it is.

[Zattano]

The drop rates on the matters are horrible. It seemed good the first 2 weeks, but in the last month i've maybe gotten 1 out of 20~ runs.

[Voidstorm]

A longer grind than a stage 5 prime weapon for a single r30 accessory is an insult.
This version of Limbus removed everything unique about the original Limbus and replaced it with terrible exemplar point farming since you're killing your chain every time you go up a floor. The mobs have no interesting mechanics. You're forced to go through all floors instead of having a single progress bar per Wing and unique floors for different styles of play.

I got 3 out of the 4 accessory base items and haven't been back to Limbus outside of picking up a ??? since.
I feel thoroughly insulted by SE for making Limbus into trash since it was one of my favorite events back at 75cap.

[Zattano]

That would be a vast improvement on the current drudgery, but temp items would need to be reworked? I didn't participate in Limbus I when it was current, maybe can copy the old system?

Those NMs are pretty ridiculous too. Both my tanks are very well geared, yet they tear through them like paper. Maybe for larger servers this isn't as much of an issue, but for the rest they are a bit much. At least give us our damage received mitigations back. Damage received under shield blocks appear to be nearly the same as no shield block...

[Zattano]

It would be great if the minimum drop rate on Alabaster Matter or Murky Matter was higher if no NMs are killed. Considering the difficulty of the NMs, I think the floor should be 30%~. We ran quite a bit of limbus at the start of the month, no one im my group has received matter from the box. Seems my server didn't kill many, if any, NMs last month.

Also, a reward for killing the NMs would be helpful to motivate others that currently aren't. Maybe fill floor bar, and some units? A chance at matter would be great, even if it was small.

[Alhanelem]

Can someone clarify for me? Since the previous update where they upgrade the treasure chests based on the NMs being killed...

Does the player have to be involved in their defeat? Or does everyone get rewarded when someone defeats them?

I've never even seen one of these mobs, and now they're adding the bosses via this same method. Assuming that they spawn for the given world server to defeat and it doesn't matter if individual players participate.... why did they do it like this? Don't they think people want to batle these bosses again? Why would you make them world spawns when they were BCNMs before? Even if everyone gets rewarded, people will miss out on battle content.

[Dragoy]

Can someone clarify for me? Since the previous update where they upgrade the treasure chests based on the NMs being killed...

Does the player have to be involved in their defeat? Or does everyone get rewarded when someone defeats them?

I've never even seen one of these mobs, and now they're adding the bosses via this same method. Assuming that they spawn for the given world server to defeat and it doesn't matter if individual players participate.... why did they do it like this? Don't they think people want to batle these bosses again? Why would you make them world spawns when they were BCNMs before? Even if everyone gets rewarded, people will miss out on battle content.

I do believe there is no need to be involved to gain the effect(s) on the rewards.

From the latest update notes:

"The treasure chest change applies to each World. Therefore, any players residing in a World that defeated the notorious monsters will be given the chance to acquire the rewards for the applicable area, not just those who actually participated in the battle to defeat the monsters."

I spotted one yesterday, named Lanun, and of course had to fight it.

It was hitting me for over 600 points of damage using regular attacks (me as samurai in Empyrean 119 +3 equipment with some damage taken-- added), and while we could stay up and fight it, my weapon skills dealing ~10k of damage only, its HP bar went down by about 5 millimetres in about 11 minutes, so we didn't spend our time there for seeing how bad it would eventually go.

[Alhanelem]

It was hitting me for over 600 points of damage using regular attacks (me as samurai in Empyrean 119 +3 equipment with some damage taken-- added), and while we could stay up and fight it, my weapon skills dealing ~10k of damage only, its HP bar went down by about 5 millimetres in about 11 minutes, so we didn't spend our time there for seeing how bad it would eventually go.

I think I recall reading that these mobs don't regenerate, so they can be worn down over time.But I still would rather have seen them implemented as boss fights the same way they were before.