Sortie is too stressful

[radar]

Sortie requires a static/group of players if done seriously, it is fairly difficult, has a time limit and allows players to access it 7 times a week.

This means players can burn out, or the static can fall apart due to 1-2 members not being able to do runs 7 times a week (while everyone else wants to) and this causes friction and stress.

If you allowed players to do Sortie 3-4 times a week, and increased the rewards so that they get the same reward for less work it would be far less stressful, would ease congestion and players could enjoy it more.

Sortie is good but you're allowing players to do it too much and they are burning themselves out, or their statics are breaking apart.

[Alhanelem]

I don't think a daily content should be an hour+. Respect the player's time. I wouldn't mind it being more like Dynamis a few times a week with a proportional increase in galimaufry.

[Zenion]

I don't think there should be daily content. Omen was a good system, why couldn't we have just kept going with that "gain an entry a day, store up to three entries" model?

[Uroah]

For one, sortie is a full hour. Omen is 10 minutes. Fundamentally different content. One is a rush to the end, the other is a spend the full time, every time.

If you let everyone take 3 straight hours of instance, it's going to be a problem.

[Zenion]

So let's force players to spend an hour in this content every single day or lose out on it. A+ design, no notes.

How about making Sortie less of a soul-crushing slog and letting people bank entries? Maybe make it a 20 minute event, with 10 minute time extensions available for locking the boss rooms in each hall (and its basement equivalent)? Or let more people occupy each instance at once, by setting up some kind of system where multiple parties - let's say maybe three of them? - can band together into some kind of super-party, an alliance of parties if you will, to take on the content together.

Yes, that would require a significant redesign. There might be a reason there; has anybody heard anyone anywhere saying "wow, Sortie sure is enjoyable content"? It had some nice ideas, but the execution was just generally not good.

[Fahzewn]

Yes, that would require a significant redesign. There might be a reason there; has anybody heard anyone anywhere saying "wow, Sortie sure is enjoyable content"? It had some nice ideas, but the execution was just generally not good.

Actually, when I play Sortie, my question is always, "Was this music leftovers from a different game?"

[Alhanelem]

I don't think there should be daily content. Omen was a good system, why couldn't we have just kept going with that "gain an entry a day, store up to three entries" model?

I don't mind daily stuff but it should be things that can be done reasonably quickly.

[Uroah]

Soul Crushing slogs are what you're specifically paying for. That is the game. No more accurate description exists.

[Zenion]

Soul Crushing slogs are what you're specifically paying for. That is the game. No more accurate description exists.

No, soul-crushing grinds are the game. Things that are tolerable for a while but need to be done a whole lot to get to what you're trying to accomplish.

Sortie is never tolerable. It's always too much of whatever it is. If it only took up a half hour, maybe, but... look, speaking as someone who has literally pounded out two stages of empyrean weapon trophies in back-to-back marathons just so I wouldn't have to feel bad about letting someone else help me with it, Sortie is the one content that I simply can not force myself to engage with, even knowing I could easily collect something like 5000 galimaufry a session without trying to figure out bosses. That hour feels longer than a three wave Dynamis - Divergence run.

[radar]

The problem is that this content requires a static friend group if done seriously, and if even one person burns out cause they have a job or family commitments you're in a real headache to replace them.

Allowing people to do such difficult content so many times a week is a huge mistake and people have quit over it, because many serious XI players will try to do it as much as you let them do it. Even if others in their group cannot keep up with them.

Xi players like grind, but not like this. The easiest fix is just to let people do it 3-4 times a week, and boost up the rewards so nobody complains. Like Dyna D.

Sortie 7 days a week is making people quit.