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  1. #1
    Player KaelVonrik's Avatar
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    Fenrir
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    Macro Test Cardians don't give tp on hit.

    The update says - The Cardians do not incur any damage when you attack, allowing you to test your equipment combinations and perfect the timing for your magic and weapon skills.


    Platform: Windows 11
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    Character Name: Phiis
    Race: Elvaan
    World: Fenrir
    Main Job: Warrior
    Support Job: Dragoon
    Area and Coordinates: Sauromugue Champaign (E-6)
    Party or Solo: Solo
    NPC Name: Macro Test
    Monster Name: Macro Test
    Steps:
    1. Attack Macro Test
    2. gain 0 Tp
    3. be unable to use new test dummy in any meaningful way

    We are unable to test weaponskills on the Macro Test Cardians because they do not give tp due to taking 0 damage.

    This will greatly reduce the effectiveness of testing TP-hit builds, weaponskills, self skillchains etc.
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    Last edited by KaelVonrik; 02-12-2025 at 10:18 PM.

  2. #2
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Tahngarthor
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    Shiva
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    Yeah, you can't easily test weapon skill execution or skillchains if you don't get TP from hitting it.

    Instead of it not taking damage, why not just give it a massive HP pool and autommatically restore its HP after every hit?
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    Player Zenion's Avatar
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    More than that, if they don't take damage then... what exactly are they serving to test? We can see that a macro is changing gear without any need for a target, /equip and /equip will execute just fine. What needs checking in a macro is whether gear is being changed at the correct time - are spells being completed in a fast cast set, or the appropriate spell potency one? Are weaponskills being execured in weaponskill gear, or is the TP set coming in too soon? Is blood pact damage switching in before the action processes, or is blood pact delay still on?

    If we can't see a difference in damage, we don't have any feedback that helps answer these questions. All we know is what we, again, could have learned without a target: gear is being swapped at some point.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Shiva
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    I figured they would just be like the striking dummies in FFXIV but really all they do is provide a valid enemy target for actions. You can't check DPS and unless you have some form of regain you can't really test WS on them. This makes no sense lol
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  5. #5
    Player GUGU's Avatar
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    There was also a similar post on a Japanese forum…
    Japanese Forums>In-Game Bugs>【Working as Intended】!? Maybe it's the time difference
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    Last edited by GUGU; 02-20-2025 at 02:36 AM.

  6. #6
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    It probably is "working as intended." The problem is, their intention doesn't allow them to function as players expected them to.
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