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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Drama is not part of the game, it's manufactured by the players and it exists everywhere. This is one case where it's not an opinion, it's a fact, as such behavior is potentially against the rules.

    Your notion that XIV is a "different game" (Which nobody mentioned prior to this) and therefore needs "more protection is ridiculous and itself appears as an attempt to stir drama.

    I can assure you there is just as much, if not way more, drama in that game than there is here You don't even have to play to see it, just check out the forum lol. What makes even less sense is you seem to be aware of this- it doesn't support your argument.

    Bad behavior should never be normalized, regardless of the game.
    You are entitled to your opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by radar View Post
    You are entitled to your opinion.
    Bad behavior is factually bad, therefore it isn't an opinion.

    It should be expected, because humans are imperfect, but it should not be encouraged or facilitated. The ordinary level of badness that comes from humans being humans is plenty enough.

    There are of course other conclusions I could draw from this interaction, but I will refrain from doing so, as everyone should come to their own conclusions and I don't want to influence that.
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    The real world is full of bad behavior, that's why the game having it makes it realistic and immersive.

    A game that protects the player as a mommy protects her child is all nice, but it's safe, boring and not a living breathing world. You are fully aware it's a video game, with moderators overseeing everything you do.

    Most people on XI don't want a playpen, we want immersion (if they didn't they would not be playing the game). I fully understand some people do want mommy world, but enough do not to make places that don't function that way.

    A good example is the lack of cheat detection on XIV, they don't have that even though it would be better for the game because it would remove all the modding there. Which vast numbers of people like.

    So they take the negatives for a greater benefit.
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    A game that protects the player as a mommy protects her child is all nice, but it's safe,
    Not once did I ever say anything about the game actively protecting people. I only said not to EXPLICITLY ENCOURAGE bad behavior/drama. Some is going to occur naturally, and that's fine. Suggesting that we need more drama is not.

    I never said anything about playpens or coddling anyone, so I don't know where you're getting that.
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    ok maybe not more rules but

    ok maybe they dont need more rules but they do need to punish the people that are hurting others on purpose mentally and physically. I think these people need to be put in jail for a month and still have to pay their fees. or something to that extent, or even removed from the game entirely if they are still doing the same behavior, thats not going to stop them from coming back on another toon, and harassing the same people over and over again, its not going to change their behavior, but heck at least u get a month of freedom.
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