So basically F XIV? If so, I agree with everything you said OP......

Think that is something the forums can agree upon, even though they rarely ever agree........XIV is responsible for a lot of SE financial woes. All of them? No.......But you don't get rewarded for failing the fourth grade, then getting it right the 2nd time........

That was a lot of production money.....more than the Avengers iirc.......

Of course XIV hurt SE....It is illogical to say otherwise because they conceded such by shutting her down.