FFXI Retail - Treasure Hunter test

[Dihlyte]

Further testing continues to prove Treasure Hunter procs are visibly and clearly affected by equipment above treasure hunter 8 total (3+5) and the higher the equipment (3+11) and (3+16) proves to proc even higher when above TH14 total.

Further testing shall commence.

Although the results are resoundingly clear thus far, and is not needed for my personal opinion on the matter, as the SE representative already cleared up any confusion I had.

Day 4 shall include a similar test as day 3, but hopefully will produce faster and quicker procs for both TH8 and TH17+ else I might start to rip my hair out at how boring this process has become.

[Gwydion]

Further testing continues to prove Treasure Hunter procs are visibly and clearly affected by equipment above treasure hunter 8 total (3+5) and the higher the equipment (3+11) and (3+16) proves to proc even higher when above TH14 total.

Further testing shall commence.

Although the results are resoundingly clear thus far, and is not needed for my personal opinion on the matter, as the SE representative already cleared up any confusion I had.

Day 4 shall include a similar test as day 3, but hopefully will produce faster and quicker procs for both TH8 and TH17+ else I might start to rip my hair out at how boring this process has become.

Camate's statements seem to indicate that TH proc rate decays as TH mob level increases. Applying more TH in gear, doesn't improve or increase TH proc rate, except that it prevents the decay from occuring. In other words, the currently proposed hypothesis is: Equip TH+1 for ever TH proc that occurs and your TH proc rate will remain at X percentage.

Your testing shouldn't indicate any ease or more frequent TH proc rates, unless we're all misunderstanding Camate's statements.

[Dihlyte]

That is what I initially thought as well, and started using TH14 more than my maximum available (19 now)

But I started feeling like I was not seeing as many drops, and a lower return on TH performance.

So far with my testing (still ongoing) I’m seeing a very obvious difference in TH19 over TH14 more than I do from TH8 to TH14.

I believe there is a more complex formula happening in the background.

As it is said, the value between the enemy and the players level, and then the “decay” on TH equipment might play a role here.

The proc rate can be fixed, as I clearly see that when you proc the first 3 procs quickly, the following tend to proc much slower.

It could be enemy HP based, or it could be something the player is doing/stats such as accuracy, DEX, or possibly even Crit rate, as others seem to feel.

This part is more difficult to test.

My first objective is to determine exactly how TH procs happen with as few variables as possible; then start adding more specific things such as DEX, DA, accuracy, etc.

My next test will be to use as much gear as possible without dealing too much damage, to where the enemy is defeated before proc'ing to TH14 which will be difficult to balance.

Then once I can find that balance, I can start testing other factors.

[Dihlyte]

To further clarify…

TH proc rates could be x% (Fixed)

If you have more haste, you will perform more melee rounds quicker, thus you will proc more quickly, since you’re attacking more quickly.

This is a given.

The proc rate is “fixed” but since you’re attacking quick, you'll proc “faster”

Now if the monster has TH 9 on it, and you’re in TH 8 there is now a “decay."

If you’re in TH19, and the enemy is TH9 there is no decay.

It is also possible there is a “decay” if the value between enemy and the monster is based on a higher TH value.

As has been proven already as TH 14 is harder to proc than TH 9.

The question, is that the case because TH9 is easier to proc, or because the armor has a high TH value. This is the part that isn’t directly clarified by the SE dev.

The decay could be because of the fixed rate, or the lack of TH armor.

The dev did say:

this would reduce the value of equipment with Treasure Hunter+ and also takes away all the hard work some players have put into maximize their Treasure Hunter, we would like to keep it as it is currently.

So this is what had me believe more TH armor is better. So far my testing is proving that more armor does perform better.