ok i didnt understand something about thief

[Cyriack]

deleting post so people figure it out on their own, there was no changing peoples minds even with proof, and people just want to be jerks so i dont want this post anymore.

[Catmato]

It's 3+5. Anything more than TH8 in traits/gear combined is pointless.

[Dihlyte]

It's 3+5. Anything more than TH8 in traits/gear combined is pointless.

Per a representative of Square-Enix

…when the value of Treasure Hunter placed on a monster and the value of the Treasure Hunter on your character are different, this will cause the growth rate to vary.

So in theory, having anything less than TH14 total, you have a lower chance to proc.

(We already had this debate. It’s very clear, that having less than TH14 Lowers your chance to proc to TH14.)

Also, for a visual made by a player to represent this concept, confirmed via the words of the previous statement.

(These values are just a visual representation; they are not accurate)




https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/s...154#post658154

[Dihlyte]

So the “magic” numbers are:

THF level 99 = TH 3
THF level 99 (TH3) + armor (TH 5) = TH8
(Bare minimum)

THF level 99 (TH3) + armor (TH11) = TH14



So if you are playing job master (or 1,200 job points minimum)

…and just want to “tag and kill” you want:

Treasure Hunter 5 minimum.

If you want to proc to 14:

Treasure Hunter 11

Anything above TH11 is only the debatable area.

[radar]

The difference in proc rates are minimal, to the point it's near impossible to actually see a difference between having +8 and +11+ total.

Also most monsters where you want TH will die before you get near it, and of those that won't you need more damage.

[Dihlyte]

Well factually there is a difference.

The point is to add that clarity.

I personally love THF, and it’s my favorite job.

I enjoy having TH11, and even like to mess around with more TH when something is being stingy.

Certainly it’s upon the player to decide their approach.

At the end of the day, it is a fact that TH11 on gear is the “true minimum” not 5.

It is up to the individual player what they choose to use.

[Cyriack]

so to be clear... th gear 8 and 3 in traits is actually better for processing? and to go over it is unknown?

[Dihlyte]

so to be clear... th gear 8 and 3 in traits is actually better for processing? and to go over it is unknown?

5

Or

11

Your choice.

[Cyriack]

5

Or

11

Your choice.

i just tried 14 and got like almost 0 drops one 100 and one sparkling stone doing dynamis jueno. Gonna test with it.

[Cyriack]

but i went back to th8 today and its just a bad day for testing got barely any drops but 2 100s. on another note is dw11 too much for a thief99/dancer with full buff trusts?