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    Sorry, but a window of roughly 52 minutes 6+ hours isn't exactly what I'd call accommodating. Depending on your job, the weapon, and the mobs and their location in question, you could be looking at a hell of waiting solo. So, while this might not be an issue for people capable of devoting huge chunks of time to the game daily, for those who maybe have a couple hours here and there every other day? Lemme guess, "It's not for them."

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    Expecting to be able to log on and do weather or day based trials whenever you want is utterly ridiculous, i`m sorry. Especially if you go out and purposely choose an elemental trial. Maybe people have a right to be annoyed once, when they realise there isnt permanent fire weather right outside their mog house. Then again most rational people will realize their mistake and think a bit before choosing a trial which doesnt fit so well with their time limitations. Thats always something you raise too, limited time, it gets a bit ridiculous sometimes. Next thing youll be saying that Magian trials dont work very well for people who can only log on for 15 minutes, once a week.

    If you don`t have the patience to wait for the game clock or the weather to swing to your advantage then yes, find something else to do. It`s obvious that the patience is lacking. You make it sound like Magian trials are the only thing for people to do in game.

    Let me give you a good example of how rare conditions are countered. Killing 50 bees in water weather. There are very few ways to actually get this done in game. What do you do to counter this? Check the weather NPC in Lower Jeuno until you see the right conditions coming up, then go sacrifice some time waiting for weather to pop. Sure it might take a little bit of time for things to swing to your way, but if you persist, youll get it done.

    Another solution is to be doing more than one trial, but that one is so blindingly obvious I didnt feel it needed to be mentioned. However, you forced my hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blowfin View Post
    Expecting to be able to log on and do weather or day based trials whenever you want is utterly ridiculous, i`m sorry
    TOTM was created for casual play and for the most part you can do these trials and find appropriate weather without a hitch. Wind is usually up frequently in TOAU or cycling in Grauberg. When weather turns on in these zones, you'll usually get around 20mins to the full game day of weather. Did I mention that this happens often across multiple days making the trials doable? and that you're getting 5pts/kill?

    This is not the case with Light/Fire trials. I didn't say I wanted the trials to be "doable whenever" but the facts are that light/fire weather do not exist and when they do exist, it's for a short time before the predominant weather takes over.

    Terrigan gets fire weather but Wind dominates.
    Ifrits Cauldron gets fire weather but Water/2x Water dominates.
    Mount Zhayolm gets fire weather but Earth dominates.
    Altepa gets fire weather but etc etc.

    Light only exists between specific game hours in a specific part of the calender year, period.

    Especially if you go out and purposely choose an elemental trial. Maybe people have a right to be annoyed once, when they realise there isnt permanent fire weather right outside their mog house. Then again most rational people will realize their mistake and think a bit before choosing a trial which doesnt fit so well with their time limitations. Thats always something you raise too, limited time, it gets a bit ridiculous sometimes. Next thing youll be saying that Magian trials dont work very well for people who can only log on for 15 minutes, once a week.
    More overblown nonsense. For the most part, TOTM is casual. You can easily do Earth/Water/Wind/Ice trials with no lack of weather.

    If you're going to argue that you should simply wait for Firesday/Lightsday to do the trials at 1pt/kill then you make my point for me that the trials are unfairly balanced and require adjustment.

    If you don`t have the patience to wait for the game clock or the weather to swing to your advantage then yes, find something else to do. It`s obvious that the patience is lacking. You make it sound like Magian trials are the only thing for people to do in game.
    Show me the abundant Fire weather.
    Show me the abundant Light weather.

    Then perhaps you'll have an argument that I am just whining to whine.

    Let me give you a good example of how rare conditions are countered. Killing 50 bees in water weather. There are very few ways to actually get this done in game. What do you do to counter this? Check the weather NPC in Lower Jeuno until you see the right conditions coming up, then go sacrifice some time waiting for weather to pop. Sure it might take a little bit of time for things to swing to your way, but if you persist, youll get it done.
    50 bees in Water weather without utilizing Watersday.
    Options:
    Ifrits Cauldron/Temple of Uggalepih during Rain/Typhoons
    Crawlers Nest/(S) during Rain
    Level Sync Pashhow/Rolanberry/Yuhtunga/Yhoator

    Now my example:

    200 Flans in Fire weather without utilizing Firesday
    Options:
    Mount Zhayolm/Halvung during Hot Spells.

    Yeah, you keep checking the weather NPC for fire in Zhayolm and if it happens enjoy the 10mins you have before the eruption ends and the zone goes back to perpetual Earth weather only. I'll see you in a few months when Fire happens often enough in Zhayolm for you to complete the trial without using Firesday.

    Another solution is to be doing more than one trial, but that one is so blindingly obvious I didnt feel it needed to be mentioned. However, you forced my hand.
    Doing another trial doesn't make fire/light based trials any easier unless you're telling me to simply ignore they exist and do the trials that actually have weather backing them.
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