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    You're looking at this only in short term. Yes right now this is only single, but this is exactly how vagary RoEs were until they later added the weekly RoEs. This is stepwise, this opens the door for the future addition of weekly RoEs, and the possibility of an ambuscade like bonus seal. Though if a seal were to be added and if it only applied to 1 mob players would only likely be using it on aminon for 60k gallamufry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dihlyte View Post
    I was not very excited just about sortie RoE, (not that was not excited at all, just not very excited, but something is always something, and SE could have easily shut this game down, so I'm grateful its even still playable.)

    Now I'm a bit more excited based on how it reads.

    I can't imagine is Just a +2 old case.

    Right? Wouldnt it be a +2 earring case based on the job?



    Its plural, but then goes on to say "only one time."

    So I would have to assume its job specific to your desired job. It would only make sense that way right?

    Based on what you're implying, its just completely random and they just give you 1 old case +2. But why would he use plural in that case?

    I guess we'll just have to see for the specifics. I personally am assuming its +2 based on the job you clear the RoE as? I dont know for sure.
    The simplest answer to "why would he use plural" is "you can receive multiple" - more than one RoE with an Old Case +2 as a reward means multiple +2 job-specific earrings.

    As it stands right now, prior to the update, Old Case +2 isn't a thing that exists yet, so we don't know how one will behave. It could work exactly like Old Case and Old Case +1, or it could be different. I certainly hope that it at least biases its selection toward the job it's opened on, if it doesn't just always drop an earring for that specific job... but I'm not optimistic.

    What we do know is that it's not a voucher, it's not an earring, the delivery mechanism is specifically an Old Case +2, so you don't get to just pick an item from a list; that certainly suggests, to me anyway, the same gacha mechanics that Sortie earrings are built around.
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    I'm thinking they are just going to give old cases+2 and you will get one or more for each completed objective. But I'd love to find out it's better than that.
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    Well, I have to say, I wasn't really expecting much but somehow I'm disappointed.

    Ghatjot is only worth an Old Case (and that's apparently only if you survive the fight, sucks to be the one member of my party who didn't.) I imagine it wouldn't be any different for the rest of the top floor bosses.

    So I guess that means one Old Case +2, once, for defeating Aminon. I'll never find out; not having a consistent group to run with and able to challenge the basement bosses is why I gave up on Sortie in the first place.

    With the rewards so tiny and only boss clears being worth anything at all, I have to wonder who this update was for? Nobody who can readily complete the objectives is going to feel particularly well rewarded by the caliber of prize on offer.
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    I agree.

    1/22 chance for a +2 earring (ignoring the augments factor) for defeating one of the most, if not the most difficult boss is a bit underwhelming.

    I appreciate they added anything at all, but it really is next to nothing.

    The only way it could be even more useless would be to add only old case or old case +1.

    Maybe in the future they will make them repeatable, this way the people who can clear Aminon will increase their chances at a +2 earring.


    With that said, I don’t believe more than 10% of players can even defeat Aminon.


    I personally can only clear A boss, and C boss. I can barely clear C boss.

    I also don’t even have many +1 earrings.

    Normal quality earrings are pretty pointless. The only characters using a NQ earring would be those getting carried through content most likely. (Alts, and people getting power leveled.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dihlyte View Post
    Normal quality earrings are pretty pointless. The only characters using a NQ earring would be those getting carried through content most likely. (Alts, and people getting power leveled.)
    I'm still using an NQ earring for my summoner main, sadly. I got a +2 once, but of course that was on the character that didn't even have summoner unlocked yet; never seen so much as a +1 on the one who actually has a use for it.
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    Yeah... not surprised (unfortunately).

    I've only defeated Ghatjot so far, and it would have been nice to have at least one earring from it every run... but I suppose that would be "too good". :\

    I am glad they put effort into adding new things (thank you!), but this one seems rather pointless to put it blunt-like.
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    Player Dihlyte's Avatar
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    I more or less meant that as there are other earrings, so a more well established character wouldn’t be using NQ earrings.

    I don’t know enough about summoner to say if a NQ sortie earring is better than other options, but for most earrings, there are much better options that are easier to obtain.
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    the earrings are way too hard to get for what they are
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    the earrings are way too hard to get for what they are
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    Well, no, that's the problem, they're not hard to get. You can get one naked on a level 1 job if you really try. They'd feel a lot better if they were hard to get - you don't see people complaining (much) about Odyssey gear or Empyrean weapons, because those require raw effort (and for Odyssey, a reliable group, but it's an MMO so that's technically a reasonable ask.)

    No, the earrings are awful because they're so bloody luck-based. A chance to get an Old Case, then a chance to get a relevant job, chance that it's a +1, chance that the augments are good, you have to roll the dice and get lucky four times in a row to get a single piece. It would be like doing Up In Arms knowing there's a slot that can contain the Kraken Club, but that drop slot is only added to the pool 25% of the time, and it's shared with a dagger, a sword, a staff, an axe, a great axe, and so on... and then if a club drops, it could be an Octave Club, or it could rarely be a Kraken Club, but the Kraken Club is just a normal club now except it has a random augment on it which can be from "occasionally attacks twice" to "occasionally attacks 2 - 8 times."

    (To be fair, with that example, yes, that's kind of how it works I think? A bit like Pixie Hairpin and Defending Ring, you get either Walkure Mask or Kraken Club if that particular drop slot gets added to the pool, which is itself rare? But that's still only two rolls you have to beat.)
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