Items for playing X amount of hours or paying for X years

[VoiceMemo]

I'd like to suggest SE allowing those of us who have played X amount of hours, or paid for X amount of years that they get some kindof special reward for their years of subscription.

IE I've played since zilhart release, over 15 years continuously, I keep trying for rank 1 lotto for judgement day painting yet have never been able to win it, in 30 mog lottos.

Came close again this year, had 584, instead of 594, 1 digit off. It would be nice to be awarded a choice of item for X amount of years or time playing/paying for the game

[Alhanelem]

This isn't wow, we aren't all getting a statue for never letting our sub lapse

[Gwydion]

This isn't wow, we aren't all getting a statue for never letting our sub lapse

Hold your horses. I support this idea. SE does very little to recognize non-JP players. (Remember the Large T-shirt giveaway last year?). It would be nice if SE created a customer-incentive that everyone had a fair chance at obtaining. A small gesture to say: "Thanks for being a loyal fan!" would go a LONG way, given that the game is in maintenance mode for the foreseeable future.

Director Fujito said that 2024 is supposed to be a comfortable year for us, so what exactly does that mean? Some ideas include:

• Making Rainbow or Gold mog pells available for 3000 login points.
• Lowering the Judgement Day painting to Rank 2 or Rank 3
• Putting making REMA weapons available in the bonanza again.
• The value of items in Rank 2 is extremely confusing: (300 beitetsu? lol).
• Give us $10 or $20 to use at the Square-Enix store for a year's worth of FFXI subscriptions

It's really not difficult to be creative in this regard. I just think many (game) companies are struggling and only have developer resources for the most profitable areas. It's kind of disheartening.

[Alhanelem]

Hold your horses. I support this idea. SE does very little to recognize non-JP players.

Nothing here said anything about non-JP players specifically:

"Items for playing X amount of hours or paying for X years"

This is basically a prize for spending the most money and I'm vehemently opposed to that idea. If you want to show off how much money you dumped into something, there are a million mobile games out there that are designed to let you do just that. It may not be your intention but it really comes across as supporting an idea just because I don't like it. There is nothing good about this.

[VoiceMemo]

My suggestion is not like a gatcha game where you can spend more and more money for what you want. It is to reward long time support/continued playing the game. Literally the only thing left that I really want in the game is Judgement day, and to get this I have to rely on luck to win rank 1? The painting literally does NOTHING to benefit my account, other than being the rarest furniture in the game. It has no special effects that boost, Moghancement: Lightning occurs on other furniture.

[Alhanelem]

My suggestion is not like a gatcha game where you can spend more and more money for what you want.

That's not the point nor what I said. I'm not talking about buying items. I'm talking about your suggestion: Getting some kind of reward for subscribing forever. That literally equates to being rewarded for having spent X money.


FFXIV initially did this, and kept adding veteran rewards based on subscription days. But later, they eliminated most of this, and the rewards that remain are all earned very quickly. It still shows your total days subscribed but new rewards are no longer added and the removed items were added elsewhere in the game.

The painting literally does NOTHING to benefit my account,

Taking an exclusive reward and adding new ways to obtain it devalues that reward for people who obtained it the way it was originally supposed to be. If you can get it some other way that makes it not special (or not as special) anymore. FFXIV made this mistake when a 1.0 item earned during its story prior to A Realm Reborn was specifically told to only be earnable until 2.0 came out. But a few years later they made the exact same item available again via a seasonal event (which, to be a bit fair, hasn't recurred since). At least the original ranked PvP rewards (except the ones granted by achievements) have not been made obtainable in other ways. People worked for them on the promise they were exclusive rewards and it would violate the trust of the playerbase to change that.

There is no rule that says everyone must be able to get every item. There is no purpose to collecting every item in existence. You said it best yourself, the item has no purpose (or, a redundant purpose), the only value it has outside of its exclusivity is "i like how it looks." It is not a gameplay altering item.

[Gwydion]

Nothing here said anything about non-JP players specifically:

"Items for playing X amount of hours or paying for X years"

This is basically a prize for spending the most money and I'm vehemently opposed to that idea.

You're being myopic. If SE implemented Voicememo's suggestion, it would be a form of customer appreciation and engagement that is equal for all FFXI players around the world. That's not a cash shop, either. Think of this request as an actually worthwhile, or new and improved: "Adventurer Appreciation campaign"

[Alhanelem]

You're being myopic. If SE implemented Voicememo's suggestion, it would be a form of customer appreciation and engagement that is equal for all FFXI players around the world. That's not a cash shop, either. Think of this request as an actually worthwhile, or new and improved: "Adventurer Appreciation campaign"

A form of customer appriciation would be to give something to everybody, not based on subscription time. And that's what they do every month with the new items in the login campaigns.

This thread is "I've spent thousands on sub fees over the last 20 years, gimme a trinket now so I can let everyone know i did that!"

If it had nothing to do with time spent subscribed, then yes, it would be an Adventurer Appriciation Campaign.

[VoiceMemo]

Taking an exclusive reward and adding new ways to obtain it devalues that reward for people who obtained it the way it was originally supposed to be. If you can get it some other way that makes it not special (or not as special) anymore.

If it was some kind of skill or persistence of doing a fight over and over I would agree that it would not make this special anymore. BUT in this case it's all about LUCK. So are you saying just because people were lucky, that they chose the right digits in order, that makes them special?

So I guess in real life you are also against real life raises for you working for the same company for X amount of years. That when you join a company that is your pay for life. That there is no celebrations for reaching X amount of years.

This is why SE did primes this way, it's something you work towards over time, the amount of time will vary between people, but you'll get it done eventually if you strive for it. Or you can not do it at all, as there is no content where a prime is required, ie that can ONLY be won with primes.

[Alhanelem]

BUT in this case it's all about LUCK.

I don't think the method is relevant. It carries with it a form of exclusivity. Getting a Dring or any other rare item in this game is all about luck. Many people want these things purely because of their rarity.

"So are you saying just because people were lucky, that they chose the right digits in order, that makes them special?"
The "special" thing is the rarity. That's all. It's not the act or anything else. I'm not sure if you would be asking for this item if it was easily obtainable.