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  1. #11
    Player Karumac's Avatar
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    Karumac
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    Bahamut
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    THF Lv 99
    Step 1: Cap Azure
    Step 2: Have MNK AoE WS with Cataclysm on a Pluto's Staff
    Step 3: Sift through the Boxes

    There, TE for everyone.
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  2. #12
    Player Bahamut_Norm's Avatar
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    Norm
    World
    Bahamut
    Main Class
    BLM Lv 99
    There is a very simple, and very specific reason they limit time you can be in abyssea; Gilsellers.

    In order to sustain yourselves in the environment, you need more than a few kills, and you need more than a few people (IMHO about 3 to 6 working -very- efficiently).

    Even if gilsellers manage to accumulate a great deal of time they can't accumulate time and fight larger NMs effectively, even if they can, it still requires a number of active paid/hacked accounts to do so. Plus, having three different expansions to get into these areas means they have to shell out even more money to square to do so.

    And even better, if you have all these accounts for this purpose, and the stones, your time and lights are re-set to 120 minutes at most when you exit. This makes it impossible to change zones.

    Additionally, it makes it impossible to camp long-timer NMs without a whole dedicated party. Making for a slightly better player experience. (Linkshell monopolizing one NM in one area? Go to another!)

    The accumulation of stones is simply icing on the cake. Even if you have a ton of stones amassed, you need to have time pass to acquire more. This brings me to my favorite part, math.

    6 Characters 12*6 = $72
    3 expansion packs *6 = $180

    So this means, in order to cover all the zones in all the expansions, you'd need:

    9 Zones * (72*180) = $2286 in startup investment costs!
    72 * 9 = $648/month.

    Don't forget the constant banning and new startup costs of accounts. And that's just on -one- server. For accounts that -will- run out of stones. If you were to take the time to optimize the characters to get stones faster, and you constantly exhausted stones, you wouldn't be able to make enough of these accounts to cover all the time in a day.

    All that cash to monopolize one or two of the plethora of NMs in the Abyssea zones? Looks like someone's getting a paycheck to work a banhammer!
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    Last edited by Bahamut_Norm; 03-09-2011 at 02:16 AM.

  3. #13
    Player Samvimes's Avatar
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    Nobbynobbs
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    Ragnarok
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    If your running out of time in abyssea/in stones your doing it wrong.
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  4. #14
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    Allowing you to buy stones with cruor or from extra time you have gained will make ppl create big FC parties and then sell the spots.

    I would like to keep the stone distribution as is. I think you need to look at how effectively you or your members are spending their time in abyssea. Perhaps in future they can hang out in Dynamis to cool off and save up some stones?
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  5. #15
    Player Ilax's Avatar
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    Ilax
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    Fenrir
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    THF Lv 99
    If you time out, you do it wrong for sure, in duo PT i cap light in <25 min, i just can't see how a group of 8~12 can manage to time out if they know what they are doing.
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  6. #16
    Player Gadanae's Avatar
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    Gadanae
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    Siren
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    BLU Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Krystal View Post
    remove the time all together? not only would that cause a huge as heck plot killer for the whole bases behind abyssea but it would give players and excuse to stay in there ALL THE TIME. thus killing FFXI completely.
    Must agree. The reason why SE put a time limit on Abyssea was to avoid just that. And ya know dam well if they removed it we'd never leave that zone unless we had to.... lol.
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    Player Randwolf's Avatar
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    Character
    Randwolf
    World
    Sylph
    Main Class
    BLU Lv 99
    I think your problem is caused by multiple issues:

    1) Does every member get 3 stones per day
    2) Have members increased the value of each stone from 30 minutes to a higher amount
    3) Do your LS runs start by building TE chests
    4) Is it an expectation that your LS members have stones available for events

    My LS pretty much goes in every day and my stone supply continues to increase, even when I go in a couple of times a week solo and get no TE's.
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    All Jobs 99
    GS 54, BS 50, Alch 60, Bone 57, WW 60, Cloth 53, Cook 60, LC 60, Fish 51
    Playing Since NA PS2 Release

  8. #18
    Player Gadanae's Avatar
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    Gadanae
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    Siren
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    I appreciate everyone's suggestions and help in this forum. I have sat back to watch the replies pile up and have taken the information given and will start applying it immediately. Thank you everyone for your advice!
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  9. #19
    Player Cream_Soda's Avatar
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    Tigerwoods
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    Sylph
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    MNK Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by Unctgtg View Post
    I have way to many stones now, and I have just about every atma and item I can ever want out of abyssea. I have 413 stones when I check Saturday.
    You no want empy ?
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  10. #20
    Player Wenceslao's Avatar
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    Wenceslao
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    Asura
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    DRG Lv 99
    I have more stones than i can handle >< and i do abyss in regular runs, (i have 340 with joachim, plus 4 on me), so i don't think time could be a prob to me
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