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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gadanae View Post
    SE,

    I lead an Abyssea linkshell. We're a small group, and we try to farm time as best we can with our real life schedules. Our members like to do things in Abyssea outside of LS events when they can as well.

    This creates a problem. Lack of stones for LS events.

    Maybe make them able to be purchased with cruor, like 10k cruor apiece? How about allowing for time over 120 mins gained in Abyssea to be converted to stones upon exit?

    Something, anything please, before I start hearing my members say to me:

    "Sorry Gad, can't make tonite's event cuz I have 1 stone left".

    HELP ME OUT
    This isn't a problem. Get them their stone and +minute abyssites, and they will never ever run out of stones ever again.
    I guarantee it. Even doing abyssea almost every day, sometimes multiple seperate sessions a day, I still am gaining stones faster than I can use them.
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    This thread is over 3 months old. Someone's running around necrobumping stuff from March.

    The OP doesn't even post here any more =/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greatguardian View Post
    This thread is over 3 months old. Someone's running around necrobumping stuff from March.

    The OP doesn't even post here any more =/
    hehe... good catch. Reminds me.... they need to do something about the search engine defaulting to "Any Date". IDK if that's how this got dug up, but it may be partly to blame for some bumps I've been seeing here and there.
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    Get them their stone and +minute abyssites, and they will never ever run out of stones ever again.
    I guarantee it.
    I don't see how you could guarantee something like that, lol. While it may be the case for a large majority of the player base, it's still easily possible to run out of stones. Not everyone goes and farms and abidance of time every time they step into abyssea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cream_Soda View Post
    large majority of the player base,
    Let's cater to the minority yea?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rearden View Post
    Let's cater to the minority yea?
    When did I ever say that? I'm just saying he made a guarantee which isn't true. I said nothing else.
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    I can understand both perspectives that have been voiced; on the one hand, with Celerity and Sojourn Abyssites having been properly acquired, stones should be a complete non-issue. I also lead a small Abyssea group, and many of our members spend hours during the week farming KIs and such in order to help bring down NMs faster during actual events. None of them, including a WAR who recently restarted his account with no stones whatsoever accumulated, has had any issues at all.

    That being said, to my understanding the Traverser Stone mechanism was meant to limit time inside Abyssea. When they clearly fail to do so, what is the point of them remaining? FFXI has suffered from this sort of "outdated mechanic" before; SE never seems to realize that phasing out mechanisms as they become irrelevant or harmful is the appropriate course of action. This can be applied to Abyssea stones, to make the experience less tedious, but there are many other examples. Signet effects wearing off randomly for R10 players (why? Is it supposed to be hard for us to get back to town?), long respawn timers on mobs that perhaps would have been good farming years ago but aren't anymore, BCNMs being linked to Campaign area control, which drives the Roundel Earring prices. There are countless more of these, all of which were designed with the initial content and approach in mind; they, in general, accomplished their objective when the content was first introduced. They've also failed miserably, either becoming irritants or outright barriers, in the aftermath. They need a sunset clause on these sorts of game mechanics, and frankly, I would be hard-pressed to argue against one for Abyssea stones at this point. It's not like they're actually limiting time for most of us; who cares?
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    Player Raxiaz's Avatar
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    Traverser stones are limitations on a system that is already broken enough as it is. Doing away with traverser stones completely is a horrible idea. It's one of the few limitations on abyssea - if even the only one, and this topic alone serves to show how well they function.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    if you have 8 hour recharge stones that are worth 48 minutes, unless all you do is solo and you stay in abyssea all day, you're gaining stones. Can you really spend hours upon hours in abyssea every day and never get time extensions?

    //sitting on 400+ stones, still can't find a way to use more than I'm getting
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    if you have 8 hour recharge stones that are worth 48 minutes, unless all you do is solo and you stay in abyssea all day, you're gaining stones. Can you really spend hours upon hours in abyssea every day and never get time extensions?

    //sitting on 400+ stones, still can't find a way to use more than I'm getting
    Yes, you can. Alt is down to 30 stones from having 200+ last time I cared to check.

    Seals NMs? Spend more time farming time than you do fighting seals NMs, prefer to just burn stones. Dual boxed my emp war + whm for farming KI and since my war sucks, swapped to mnk to do NMs (duo chloris, shout for randoms for 3-5 on Ulhua since it drops+2 stuff, same w/ Dragua), so I'd have to farm time 2 sets of times for each set of NM pops, which I wasn't interested in doing.
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