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    Player Uroah's Avatar
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    January fake bans

    At least 700 looks less fake than a thousand. Maybe next month it'll be closer to a believable number, since there's thousands of bots you could ban but don't.
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    Maybe when they ban a spark bot account, they count every single character that account had ever had. A single account could account for 100 bans alone.
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    Player Uroah's Avatar
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    That's not how it works, or how they work. They buy 1 slot and erase the character, repeat.

    Now if they're banning erased characters, that's a fake ban. Character is already gone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uroah View Post
    Now if they're banning erased characters, that's a fake ban. Character is already gone.
    That's what I'm saying. Their numbers are (possibly) inflated from banning deleted characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uroah View Post
    That's not how it works, or how they work. They buy 1 slot and erase the character, repeat.
    Yep, because you know this, of course.
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    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.

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    Cool story bro.

    Anyway, a ban is a ban, even if it ends up useless. It doesn't really matter how many bans they do. Even if they said 10000 and it was true, they'll all be back before long. It's a never-ending situation and you will never be satisfied because there is nothing to stop bots from making more bot characters. Not even IP or MAC bans can stop it entirely.

    Now sure, if they could ban faster they could reduce the average number present, and I agree that their fear of accidentally banning anyone that doesn't deserve it means they can't and don't do so nearly as fast as they could otherwise because INVESTIGATION!. But even then, it's only going to slow them down a little bit, not stop them. And thus, you would never be satisfied, even if those "fake" bans were "real."
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    Last edited by Alhanelem; 02-10-2024 at 09:34 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Cool story bro.

    Anyway, a ban is a ban, even if it ends up useless. It doesn't really matter how many bans they do. Even if they said 10000 and it was true, they'll all be back before long. It's a never-ending situation and you will never be satisfied because there is nothing to stop bots from making more bot characters. Not even IP or MAC bans can stop it entirely.

    Now sure, if they could ban faster they could reduce the average number present, and I agree that their fear of accidentally banning anyone that doesn't deserve it means they can't and don't do so nearly as fast as they could otherwise because INVESTIGATION!. But even then, it's only going to slow them down a little bit, not stop them. And thus, you would never be satisfied, even if those "fake" bans were "real."
    This is nothing to do with bots or ban numbers. All of "that" thread and this one is a smoke screen to cover their own misdeeds.
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    Last edited by Sirmarki; 02-11-2024 at 01:03 AM.

    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.

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    That's ok for them..... so many fake bans to accommodate all their fake GM reports? Sounds about fair on both sides now.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirmarki View Post
    This is nothing to do with bots or ban numbers. All of "that" thread and this one is a smoke screen to cover their own misdeeds.
    What misdeeds? They don't have a guy on the server banning everyone with faceroll names because SE has policies in place that don't allow them to do something like that. I guess they think the backlash from a few innocent bans will be worse than that from the never-ending stream of bots.

    Basically they must conduct an investigation on every report and so any bans that do take place end up being on characters that have already been deleted or or otherwise no longer used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    What misdeeds? They don't have a guy on the server banning everyone with faceroll names because SE has policies in place that don't allow them to do something like that. I guess they think the backlash from a few innocent bans will be worse than that from the never-ending stream of bots.
    I'm not talking about SE. I'm talking about you know who, its a cover, as some bizarre attempt to cover up their own thing they got going on.
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    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.

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