FFXI Players Guide

[Sp1cyryan]

The less relevant content takes a back seat to the overall progress on the wiki. BG has vastly more editors and more quality work being done at all times for close to a decade now.

The gardening or whatever is for when I or anyone up to the task gets around to it. However, it is not hard to make any edge case like this superior to what exists now. In general the information and layout on Clopedia is inferior or superfluous. Even fringe sections that get looked at for answers to something and cited as why it matters, are inaccurate or flat-out wrong.

I would love to work with players on this, and often end up looking over or touching up the work that does get done every day. Which of course also takes time. However, I can say the integrity of the information is overall superior on BG compared to Clopedia.

[Zenion]

BG has vastly more editors and more quality work being done at all times for close to a decade now.

The gardening or whatever is for when I or anyone up to the task gets around to it.

Let me bottom-line it, man. FFXIclopedia had an army of hundreds of nerds with nothing better to do to build up its knowledge base as everything was fresh and exciting. It might not be as elegantly-curated, but it's exhaustive for the pre-sunset part of FFXI's life. BG-Wiki is never going to find somebody who has so little going on in their life that they'll hammer on one pointless NM for weeks to figure out the exact range of Eagle Eye Shot delay reduction evoliths that's available.

BG might be the better source for news now, but dismissing FFXIclopedia because it's past its prime is choosing to ignore a wealth of esoteric information that is, at best, implausible to recreate.

Screw Fandom though. Bad host is bad.

[Alhanelem]

dismissing FFXIclopedia because it's past its prime is choosing to ignore a wealth of esoteric information that is, at best, implausible to recreate.

Example:
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Bubbly_Bernie

I myself determined Bubbly Bernie's MP by using a BLM to aspir away all of its MP- since it has no spells and doesn't have auto refresh, you can get a 100% accurate determination of its max MP (it has MP because its job is PLD).
While the template has always provided for users to put in both an HP and MP total, for most NMs with MP it is hardewr to determine how much they have because they cast spells, and some mobs have auto refresh etc. There's only a few monsters for which their max MP is known- One of the others is Golden-tongued Culberry (about 30k MP), where the strategy was usually to kite the NM and let hem cast spells til he runs out of MP, at which point he will stand still and do absolutely nothing, not even auto-attack. Generally, mobs pay the same MP costs players do, though there are exceptions, like Meteor, since our meteor is totally different from the one used by monsters; so you can calculate their MP by adding up the MP cost of all the spells they cast until they don't cast spells anymore- This is simply rare because 99% of the time, a mob will never run out of MP before you kill it.


Also on Bubbly:
"Can be defeated by an alliance of level one jobs."
You know, I wonder how many times this was actually done lol.