FFXI Players Guide

[Dihlyte]

Shame the code window is fixed height! lol

I actually was impressed with that second one, I had a good laugh. Thanks!

it's not that we don't want you to do it, it's simply us telling you that it's not really the best solution.

I guess the response here is yes I'm not overly concerned with any thing thats being said so far because I am not finished with the quide, not even the mission part, which is my main goal, so I really don't want anyone seeing it. (Kinda.)

The main reason I posted it already, was so I could get more motivated in finishing it.

Me keeping it on just my PC and working on it was not getting me far. Posting it to the forums so at least some people see it, and the fact I can link it if say someone in my LS is mentioning doing missions I can link it for them to use, which has already happened. This has encouraged me to make much more progress on it, and sort of stick to it more, which "goal accomplished" I guess.

Once I do in fact finish all missions at least up to RoV, excluding TVR, this is when I will consider my options in gaining traction/views. I'm not really focused on that aspect yet at all, since its currently unfinished.

I hope this clarifies my behavior. I'm not really opposed to copy-pasting onto BGwiki if they agree they don't mind, or want the guide on their site. They could flat out tell me no, I won't know until I ask/talk to them. (Again.)

As for XIclopedia I dont even know who to talk to yet, again, this will be a thing I venture in the future once the guide is more complete. For now my goal is just to finish it.

I do appreciate your info and suggestions. They just are being put on hold so to speak.

[Dzspdref]

Blimey, thats style reminds me of the old cheat guides for the Commodore Amiga, back in the 80's/90's

Wow Amiga.... I remember TRS-80 from Radio shack, and also using an Atari 1200XL back then in high school in mid 1980's, using Basic+ to do stuff like that, which took a LONG time to make.

[Alhanelem]

As for XIclopedia I dont even know who to talk to yet, again, this will be a thing I venture in the future once the guide is more complete. For now my goal is just to finish it.

You don't need to ask for permission to create pages- any mistakes can easily be corrected. If you need help, I can definitely do so. I used to be an admin on there.

[Haldarn]

You don't need to ask for permission to create pages- any mistakes can easily be corrected. If you need help, I can definitely do so. I used to be an admin on there.

Me too!

[Dihlyte]

I would like to go ahead and share the one of the main reasons I am doing this.

I just finished "Magicite" mission that most all players will ever do in FFXI.

For a comparison to BGwiki's guide and mine.

-BGwiki's guide has anywhere between 80 to over 101 lines of text. (Excluding mission name, mission details/rewards at the top of the page.)

-FFXIclopedia: over 85 lines excluding many misc. lines of text from the page.

My guide has exactly 42 lines of text including the mission name.



This is line count only. To further explain, my guide will send the player on an efficient path, avoiding needless retracing of steps, among other useful -to the point- style guide help.

[Alhanelem]

well line counts aren't really directly comparable as different sites and pages will fit differently. But if you think you can improve something like info about a specific mission with less words, as long as it's still clear and readable, you can just edit that page on the wiki. The worst thing that happens is if people dont like it it can just be changed back.

[Haldarn]

I think there's a functional difference in providing encyclopaedic information on a certain subject and supplying the absolute efficient minimum.

I can see the fun in producing a single piece of work in the form of a guide using the latter ethic. I can appreciate the deep-dive information and webpage article layout of the former. Certainly room for both!

However, if you place your guide on a wiki as it's own article page (with a PLEASE DO NOT EDIT note at the top), you have the added bonus of being able to link to items and maps within the wiki and use tooltip popups for your own page, which would make it more useful to your readers.

I appreciate the concern about adverts on the page. These disappear off all pages except the home page if you're logged in to ffxiclopedia, but the rest of the useless information scattered about the sidebars and underneath the article are certainly annoying; the price you pay for hosting!

Can I also suggest that you consider ffxiah.com who have the most active forum community for the game and host many job-focussed guides, with the ability to link to their own item pages, which go on to link out to the wikis for further info.

[Dihlyte]

Original Post has been updated numerous times.

I believe the guide is fully re-written and now needs testing.

I shall proceed with testing, then I will format it for BGwiki and add it to BGwiki. If BGwiki deletes it, I have a backup on my PC as well as I will have this as a backup.

Edit: I guess I can post to XIclopedia as well.

I still need to test/proof the guide though.

[Alhanelem]

ffxiclopedia is a lot more open about what you put on it and hosts a lot more general guides.

[Sp1cyryan]

Original Post has been updated numerous times.

I believe the guide is fully re-written and now needs testing.

I shall proceed with testing, then I will format it for BGwiki and add it to BGwiki. If BGwiki deletes it, I have a backup on my PC as well as I will have this as a backup.

Edit: I guess I can post to XIclopedia as well.

I still need to test/proof the guide though.

Why would I or anyone else delete it off BG?

Also no reason to upload it to Clopedia. Site has aged poorly and it is neglected at this point.