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    Player Catmato's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    I'm just having fun thinking up new ideas.
    No fun allowed. This is a serious game.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    I don't see any problems man. I'm just having fun thinking up new ideas.
    They're not going to implement new ideas at this point. We may still get some bits of new content in the future, but BST is not getting any miracle changes. And it's like I said, it can't be tied to master level or they'd have to add stuff to master levels for everyone else too and that means a lot of work which means money needs to be spent, and they're not going to spend money on something that won't bring new players to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catmato View Post
    No fun allowed. This is a serious game.
    weren't game supposed to be fun? as in to divert the seriousness of IRL?
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobbinT View Post
    weren't game supposed to be fun? as in to divert the seriousness of IRL?
    Sarcasm is more fun.
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    Player Gwydion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    They're not going to implement new ideas at this point. We may still get some bits of new content in the future, but BST is not getting any miracle changes. And it's like I said, it can't be tied to master level or they'd have to add stuff to master levels for everyone else too and that means a lot of work which means money needs to be spent, and they're not going to spend money on something that won't bring new players to the game.
    Honestly, level increases typically come with small job adjustments. Unfortunately, for Beastmaster, it is often given new jug pets when a piece of content at this new level increase is considered old. (Look at how long it took herald henry to be released, like 3 years after Delve came out? same with the most recent batch of jug pets)

    To be fair, Beastmasters should be able to create their own jug pet, by going to an NPC, picking a monster a family, a list of abilities and some stat modifiers. Shoot, we could even feed the jug pet, food ingredients until the jug pet is ready (1-game day wait?).

    SE will never have to release new jug pets again, because we could pick from the existing families and adjust stats accordingly. Some folks might say that is getting too close into PUP territory, but it's better than SE adding jug pets randomly (or never).

    Matsui also said during the last Forums-based NA questions, that they could remove the level cap on old jug pets ....but instead offered to take our suggestions for new jug pets. To this date, SE has done nothing in this regard. A beefier Fatso jug pet or Generous Arthur would be nice. These pets are at 119. What's an ML50 beastmaster to do at that point?
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    SE will never have to release new jug pets again, because we could pick from the existing families and adjust stats accordingly. Some folks might say that is getting too close into PUP territory, but it's better than SE adding jug pets randomly (or never).
    Making a system this free would likely be a balance nightmare. But I would probably have to agree that if we went back to when beastmaster was designed, it would have been a much better system.
    These pets are at 119. What's an ML50 beastmaster to do at that point?
    If jug pets are not influenced by master level, than that is something that really needs to be addressed, as all other pets improve with master level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Making a system this free would likely be a balance nightmare. But I would probably have to agree that if we went back to when beastmaster was designed, it would have been a much better system.

    If jug pets are not influenced by master level, than that is something that really needs to be addressed, as all other pets improve with master level.
    It's not that bad of a balance nightmare. SE would just have to constrain our stats (attack/def/acc/M.acc/etc) with that of whatever the current or next content is. SE can adjust based on sources of damage, or create new ratios for dINT and pDIF, to account for the existince of configurable pets.
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    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post
    It's not that bad of a balance nightmare. SE would just have to constrain our stats (attack/def/acc/M.acc/etc) with that of whatever the current or next content is. SE can adjust based on sources of damage, or create new ratios for dINT and pDIF, to account for the existince of configurable pets.
    It's more a balance nightmare because of the available TP moves. There's a reason certain kinds of monsters don't show up as BST pets.
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    Player Gwydion's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    It's more a balance nightmare because of the available TP moves. There's a reason certain kinds of monsters don't show up as BST pets.
    During the early JP days, pets like scorpions and malboro were charmable. ....but now we can't even have hecteyes? Come on, SE.
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