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  1. #31
    Player Sp1cyryan's Avatar
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    I think the goal was to make players choose which single weapon they want. Not for them to have multiple Primes.
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  2. #32
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    This is an MMO, some players have a legal obligation to collect every single item that ever existed.
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  3. #33
    Player RichLester's Avatar
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    Yeah, but now I have 2 octahedrites from the basement blitzer coffers & 5 voracious psyches we can get each month for doing ROE4 each month. Why are these so simple to get when it is near impossible to get the gal if doing 5k or 25k-ish runs each time? It doesn't make any sense. If they want us to get stage 3 at 2 mil gal, guessing, then there's just no point. I ain't spending 2 years getting 1 prime weapon stage 3. There are better things to get & do.

    The hardcore players who play this all the time always sways SE into their direction, instead of looking at how many players are nowhere near elite level (Master lvl 50 on a few jobs with all jobs at lvl 99, quite a lot of REMA weapons, etc.) & never will get there. There's only so much you can do in a few hours each day. I think we're due another census.
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  4. #34
    Player Sirmarki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichLester View Post
    There's only so much you can do in a few hours each day. I think we're due another census.
    That's always been FFXI though. In fact, in the old days, you couldn't really get much at all done in a few hours.
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    Sirmarki, ex-Fenrir, a young warrior, in the heyday.

  5. #35
    Player RichLester's Avatar
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    True, we have always grinding on FFXI for years but aren't we meant to be rewarded for all that grinding, instead of being punished with a load more? It's just spending an hour in Sortie each day, not getting much gal, may not be worth it in the end apart from getting empy+3 gear. In the olden days, we used to get quite a lot done in a few hours, like getting to lvl 99 via WOTG campaign battle cycles (which crashed on occasions, lol).
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  6. #36
    Player Alhanelem's Avatar
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    True, we have always grinding on FFXI for years but aren't we meant to be rewarded for all that grinding, instead of being punished with a load more?
    Nope. In this, as in every other MMO ever made, the reward for your endless grinding is more endless grinding. Grinding is a core principle of MMOs.
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  7. #37
    Player VoiceMemo's Avatar
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    I'm guessing the 1m gallimaufry cost is also to promote teaming up, forming parties of 6. With full parties, you can do 30k to 50k or more gallimaufry per run. At that rate it is between 34 to 20 runs to get 1m points.
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  8. #38
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    Nobody should worry about how difficult it is to make more than one, because these things are made easier over time.

    As such your 2nd or 3rd will prob be easier.

    Also nobody has proven how much anything costs to make yet, everyone is just guessing.
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  9. #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichLester View Post
    True, we have always grinding on FFXI for years but aren't we meant to be rewarded for all that grinding, instead of being punished with a load more? It's just spending an hour in Sortie each day, not getting much gal, may not be worth it in the end apart from getting empy+3 gear. In the olden days, we used to get quite a lot done in a few hours, like getting to lvl 99 via WOTG campaign battle cycles (which crashed on occasions, lol).
    What olden days? In 2006 you'd stand around for 3 hours hoping to get the claim on Nidhogg or Fafnir, then hoping to get some crazy rare drop. If you don't get the claim, you go home with nothing. In 2012 you'd do Voidwatch 1000 times for jack squat. In 2014 you'd slowly grind job points and maybe get 2 per hour.
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  10. #40
    Player Sp1cyryan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarmarkvar View Post
    What olden days? In 2006 you'd stand around for 3 hours hoping to get the claim on Nidhogg or Fafnir, then hoping to get some crazy rare drop. If you don't get the claim, you go home with nothing. In 2012 you'd do Voidwatch 1000 times for jack squat. In 2014 you'd slowly grind job points and maybe get 2 per hour.
    Olden days of AFK leveling and capping merits on worms in Abyssea La Theine. That hard rewarding grind.
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